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‘No two-man tent would ever be safe again’

A territorial court judge has found a 26-year-old man guilty of sexually assaulting his female friend after an evening of drinking, dancing and soaking in a hot tub.

By Rhiannon Russell on August 7, 2014

A territorial court judge has found a 26-year-old man guilty of sexually assaulting his female friend after an evening of drinking, dancing and soaking in a hot tub.

Though Ashton Reed Rosenthal and the woman shared a bed following the hours of partying, Judge E. Dennis Schmidt ruled the sleeping arrangement did not imply her consent to be sexually assaulted by him.

“Knowing Ashton would, at some point, crawl into the same bed does not imply any impropriety or consent, it was simply a matter of sleeping arrangements, and people would be quite at risk if the sharing of the bed was thought to be consent to sexual activity,” Schmidt said in his May 27 decision, released this week.

“No two-man tent would ever be safe again.”

The woman had met up with several male friends at a house party last summer where they were DJing and dancing. They’d started drinking by the time she arrived, and she quickly caught up, the decision states.

They all went into the hot tub later on.

Crown prosecutor David McWhinnie said in court that although it may seem, to older generations, that there would have been some sexual innuendo in this situation, there was no indication of sexual interest between the friends.

The woman asked Rosenthal earlier if she could share a double bed with him instead of going home. He used to live at the house and she knew it was his bed because she had been there before.

She went to bed, alone, early that morning, and woke up to Rosenthal sexually assaulting her.

Although she was groggy and intoxicated, Schmidt said it is “uncontroverted” that this occurred.

While defence lawyer Melissa Atkinson was essentially asking the court to “impute a form of consent” because of the activities of the evening, Schmidt said there were several problems with doing so, because the activities were not sexual.

“(Consent) cannot be something that is implied or guessed at or hoped for by a person because of what might have happened during the course of an evening or at some other time,” Schmidt said.

“The invitation to share the bed for that night was not a sexual invitation, it was an invitation of necessity.”

Lisa Steacy, a spokeswoman for the Canadian Association of Sexual Assault Centres (CASAC), said today from B.C. she was “heartened” to hear about Schmidt’s decision.

“Sexual assault is the most gendered crime – by and large it’s men sexually assaulting women – and it’s also one of the crimes that has the most abysmal conviction rate,” Steacy said. “Less than one per cent of all sexual assaults result in conviction.

“We always think it’s useful when a judgment is rendered that takes the woman’s complaint seriously and doesn’t frame it as he-said, she-said, and serves to hold a man accountable for sexually assaulting a woman.”

In several recent high-profile cases of women sexually assaulted while intoxicated or partying, the blame has been placed on victims for somehow inviting the assault.

For instance, in Steubenville, Ohio, in 2012, a 16-year-old girl was sexually assaulted at a party by two boys, and the incident was documented on social media.

Media coverage of the ensuing trial focused on the boys’ good grades and promising football careers, and lamented the loss of their futures while the victim was often simply described as “drunk.”

That same year in Maryville, Mo., an intoxicated 14-year-old girl was sexually assaulted at a party, then left in freezing temperatures on her front lawn.

After the incident became public knowledge, she was bullied and threatened by classmates and harassed by members of the community. Her family eventually left town.

This is why Schmidt’s ruling is refreshing, Steacy said.

“Often, women’s behaviour is scrutinized as the reason (for assault): ‘Why was she there? Why did she agree to share the bed with the guy?’” she said.

“But all of those things are beside the point, and I’m glad that the judge recognized that.

“I think feminists, including CASAC, back in the day fought very hard for a definition of consent that was feminist and that got written into the Criminal Code. It has to be explicit agreement to engage in sexual activity.”

Comments (26)

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north_of_60 on Sep 1, 2014 at 7:02 pm

@Just Saying -- " bottom line is sexual assault is sexual assault."

When the law defines everything from groping and inappropriate touching to violent rape and torture as "sexual assault", then society's just response must consider the specifics of the so called "sexual assault" allegation.

Some forms of sexual assault are more serious than others, and justice must be appropriate to the severity of the crime.

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Groucho d'North on Aug 31, 2014 at 3:29 pm

BUT WAIT -There's more, its amazing what's available if you do a bit of research on this matter.

State lawmakers on Thursday passed a bill that would make California the first state to define when "yes means yes" while investigating sexual assaults on college campuses.

The Senate unanimously passed SB967 as states and universities across the U.S. are under pressure to change how they handle rape allegations. The bill now goes to Gov. Jerry Brown, who has not indicated his stance on the bill.

Democratic Sen. Kevin de Leon of Los Angeles said his bill would begin a paradigm shift in how California campuses prevent and investigate sexual assault. Rather than using the refrain "no means no," the definition of consent under the bill requires "an affirmative, unambiguous and conscious decision" by each party to engage in sexual activity. Earlier versions of the bill had similar language.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/california-legislature-passes-yes-means-yes-bill-1.2750016

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Groucho d'North on Aug 31, 2014 at 10:34 am

The other day, the National Post ran an article out of the Independent in the UK, you see this issue is not unique to these parts, women and drinking dangerously are everywhere:

Retired judge Mary Jane Mowat said it is an inevitable fact of being “one person’s word against another” during rape trials, of which the national conviction rate of cases that go to trial currently sits at 60 per cent.
She told the Oxford Mail conviction rate will not improve unless women stop drinking so heavily.

Judge Mowat, who retired this month, said: “It is an inevitable fact of it being one person’s word against another, and the burden of proof being that you have to be sure before you convict.
“I will also say, and I will be pilloried for saying so, but the rape conviction statistics will not improve until women stop getting so drunk.
“I’m not saying it’s right to rape a drunken woman, I’m not saying for a moment that it’s allowable to take advantage of a drunken woman.
“But a jury in a position where they’ve got a woman who says ‘I was absolutely off my head, I can’t really remember what I was doing, I can’t remember what I said, I can’t remember if I consented or not but I know I wouldn’t have done’. I mean when a jury is faced with something like that, how are they supposed to react?”

Read the complete illuminating article here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/former-judge-says-rape-conviction-rates-will-not-improve-until-women-stop-getting-so-drunk-9691911.html

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Just Saying on Aug 28, 2014 at 10:57 am

Not too sure what to make of some of the comments provided by heartless individuals....it shouldn't matter if she was sober or intoxicated, either way it is not acceptable by law nor society, bottom line is sexual assault is sexual assault.

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Justice League on Aug 17, 2014 at 12:20 am

2 yrs probation. Seems as though you can get away with murder for about the same custodial sentence. Do you want this guy spending his probation in your neighborhood? Will the neighborhood be told there is a sexual predator in their community? I guess no. Come on September get the real territorial court judges back so we can fill up WCC again.

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Groucho d'North on Aug 13, 2014 at 6:24 pm

It appears that our society is at odds with employing personal responsibility for all things. When it’s about jogging down the local trails, everybody accepts that you must remain alert for dangers such as bears and marauding mountain bikers, and to prepare by not wearing headphones so you can hear an approaching menace, and by wearing the appropriate clothing so you don’t suffer from the elements, and also to tell another where you are going, and when you’ll be back, or run with a pal. Most accept these precautions as being valid and important to protect one’s safety. Same for keeping bears out of our property- you put garbage in its correct place and remove all other attractants so your home and family remain safe from bears looking to satisfy their appetites.
Yet for some reason there are expectations that a young women can indulge in other risky behaviors and she will remain safe from harm in its many forms. Certainly this does not apply to driving while impaired for obvious reasons for which there are laws. So then why is it that when she decides to throw caution to the wind and expose herself to other harms- others become responsible for anything untoward that may happen to her?
As others here have already said, many are quick to jump to conclusions and in our world of politically correct language and phrases, assault can take a range of meanings from inappropriate touching to all out rape. I have even heard some women’s advocates say that yelling is assault. There will always be less than accurate reporting of these events as those reporting on these situations were not there and can only interpret what was said.
All parties in this situation bear some fault for how things turned out, and I agree that women should not have to worry about their safety while walking around town or visiting with friends and acquaintances. However, all women should be aware of the situations they are in or are entering and must bear some personal responsibility for their actions and those outcomes. As civilized as we like to pretend our community is - there are still some animals out there, to believe otherwise is naive.

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Give me a Break on Aug 11, 2014 at 10:12 am

(Trigger warning: My comment discusses drunk driving for reasons of comparison with this case. I hesitated to post it because of the accident this weekend, and I truly apologize to anyone who has been impacted by that and who might read this and be re-affected.)

It's weird to me that the repercussions of a person being drunk and driving - a fine, vehicle impound and a driving ban - are pretty well accepted by basically everyone as valid and important to deter other people from doing this thing that can endanger their life and the lives of others.
Being drunk and sexually assaulting someone, though - that for some reason remains up for dispute. Even in a case when the person assaulted was literally passed out drunk and had no opportunity to say yes or no.
In situations of drunk driving, very few people are up in arms blaming the vehicle who just happened to be available to be driven, or things like the lack of public transit late at night that could provide a more clear alternative. No one is accusing the justice system of being too "public-safety-ist" for placing the blame and consequences on a person who was drunk and decided to drive anyway.
Yet here we are, with some comments basically saying that because there was drinking and a hot tub involved, perhaps the woman should be blamed too. Even though as the article says, "there was no indication of sexual interest between the friends" and NO CONSENT GIVEN BECAUSE SHE WAS ASLEEP AT THE TIME.

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Jane Smith on Aug 10, 2014 at 1:16 am

Dear June, I suspect the victim will avoid similar situations because of the nightmares, flashbacks, resultant avoidance of physical contact, and unwarranted guilt she might feel. But thanks for your judgmental and victim-shaming two cents...

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Good decision on Aug 9, 2014 at 10:52 pm

Finally, a judge who makes a common sense decision. When I read about the alleged sexual assault that occurred in Watson Lake, by two police officers (one of whom had a pregnant wife at home) and those two got off, I was sick. One of those police officers now works in Happy Valley Labrador. Let's send him to the other side of the country and nobody will know his horrible history--and the other one is also out there working in a Canadian community feeling smug that they both got away with the same thing as in this story. So yes, thanks to the judge in this case for doing the right thing: no consent, no sex. No reading between the lines--if you are drunk, no sex. If the gal is sleeping, no sex. If you are sharing the bed for sleeping arrangements, that's all it is. Sick and tired of all the raping and sexual assaults here being swept under the rug. Zero tolerance.

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north_of_60 on Aug 9, 2014 at 6:14 pm

Sexual assault is any involuntary sexual act in which a person is threatened, coerced, or forced to engage against their will, or any non-consensual sexual touching of a person. This includes rape such as forced or drug facilitated penetration, the torture of the victim in a sexual manner, or child sexual abuse, and also includes, groping and forced kissing.

Since the term 'sexual assault' is applied to a range of offenses from inappropriate touching to violent rape, it's rather disingenuous for the article to use that term instead of the specifics of the charges. The article appears to be a vehicle for the recounting of various sexual assaults that have no relevance to this case. Implying guilt by association is shoddy journalism. This smacks of sensationalist, agenda-driven propaganda, not the journalistic objectivity we've come to expect from the Star in the past hundred years.

Lets see objective, factual reporting of events free of implication and innuendo, especially when it's reporting on controversial subjects.

As a result of ambiguous reporting: @Ivy knows "It was rape pure and simple." and @JJ knows "There was no sex involved, ... it was inappropriate touching."
To be objective without more accurate information than 'sexual assault' as reported, we should defer to JJ's interpretation.
If Ivy knows it's more than that, then obviously Ivy was there, so Ivy should be able to tell us what actually happened, and what the courts seemed to have missed. Thanks for coming forward to provide more information than the article clearly missed.

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Salar on Aug 9, 2014 at 2:38 pm

Both need to grow up......guys are stupid even not drunk so add alcohol ......women who get drunk and hot tub and are in guys bed is dumb too....it's just dumb....and to lay it all on the guy is too, too, too feminist.......folks need to stop defining everything and accept some folks are just dumb and childish......

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Ivy on Aug 9, 2014 at 3:06 am

It was rape pure and simple. I've heard of many cases in my profession as a social worker and mental health therapist. And these woman suffer depression, shame, guilt , fear if reprisal if its reported and oftentimes are looked upon as having asked for it. As a result many turn to alcohol and drugs to cope and suicide. These are very common... Far too common and destructive to the women's life and that if her children. Some never talk about it, much less report it until it becomes a historical rape and her character damaged due to the chosen self destructive coping methods. It's rape anyway you look at it.

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Max Mack on Aug 9, 2014 at 1:05 am

There is probably much more to this story than is being presented here. With the current political dynamic in the court system, men accused of "sexual assault" don't stand a chance. This is not justice.

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think outside the box on Aug 8, 2014 at 5:51 pm

So a woman can make bad choices under the influence, put herself in a precarious situation where an equally/more drunk male acted inappropriately and yet....the male is the one who takes ALL the blame? Get real!! I am a woman, and I find this appalling, I am by no means making light of sexual assault, however it's time for women to stop putting themselves into situations like this and expect that the man is the one to blame.... We don't know what happened in that room, neither of the subjects were clear headed, and have two different understandings what had happened... Stop with the we're women so we need to be protected...from our own choices... I have a daughter, and I will be teaching her that in situations like these you cannot always trust a drunk guy friend... Hell, you cannot trust anyone drunk.... thing is...if it were the other way around it would be a non issue.... double standard?

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New school on Aug 8, 2014 at 3:57 pm

This seems like there needs to be an understanding that sexually charged words or actions are highly sensitive circumstantial situations. Where the need to make sure what you are doing is COMPLETELY consensual is of the utmost importance. People change when they drink, some become flirty, some become aroused and the combination of the two can seem like an instant sure thing... But it's not its just the alcohol. You have to remember that little fact, and no amount of assumption changes that reality.
And June, if I had a daughter who came home and told me she had been drinking a lot and doing everything else, hell she could say she played strip tease and then woke up in this situation and I might discuss with her my disappointment in some of her decisions, but in no way would I EVER let her believe they were contributing factors in the assault. Because no one guy or girl should be made to feel any blame for being assaulted, they've already got to deal with all the feelings of being violated, broken trust, and undeserving shame and guilt.
All that being said I feel bad for the other person involved in that what he probably perceived as flirtation was only the alcohol and in the sobering of it all it became an assault... Just wait to get a clear distinctive willing YES. That's the only time the situation is simply a consenting one.

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Rich P on Aug 8, 2014 at 3:01 pm

Sexual Assault plain and simple...no consent it's not lawful...to make the victim look bad is to make the integrity of the poster questionable...

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Natalee Brouse on Aug 8, 2014 at 2:12 pm

Here's the thing about consent - do not assume you have it. If consent between you and your partner(s) hasn't been made abundantly clear and you are working on assumptions without checking in with your partner(s) (or even making sure they're conscious), then you are not practicing personal responsibility in this situation.

And, consent to one thing does not give you the green light to everything. If you start drinking a glass of wine and decide you don't want to finish it, that doesn't mean someone else can force you to drink it or waterboard you with it.

http://damsel-in-de-tech.blogspot.com/2013/01/consent-is-not-carte-blanche.html

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JJ on Aug 8, 2014 at 1:47 pm

There was no sex involved, I know the case, it was inappropriate touching. All the party goers were naked in the hot-tub. it's a shame this happened, but be careful of your judgments, if you don't know all the facts.

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T on Aug 8, 2014 at 1:29 pm

Sorry June, but you are wrong. A woman should be able to trust her friends not to sexually assault them. I have, in fact, shared a bed with male friends out of sleeping necessity and they have respected the boundaries put forth. She asked if she could spend the night and sleep so she wasn't drinking and driving. She didn't agree to sex. Seems to me she WAS taking responsibility for her actions and finding a safe place to stay. Except it turned out to not be so safe after all.

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Casey on Aug 8, 2014 at 1:24 pm

If what happened before the assault was consent, then were all of the men at the party giving their consent to be raped by him as well? You all are missing the point behind this whole article - if you decide to rape someone you should be punished REGARDLESS of ANYTHING the victim did. Sleeping in someone else's bed is NOT an invitation for sex - there are a million other reasons to sleep in someone's bed. In this case in particular, she was obviously too drunk to drive home and probably thought she was making a responsible choice. Minute details like this we may never know unless we were there - which is why we can't judge them. The only thing that can -and should- be judged is that someone made a decision to rape another person.

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KC on Aug 8, 2014 at 12:58 pm

The comments on this article are sick, Talk about missing the more important issue. Personal responsibility is important and I understand that there are complexities and nuances with respect to "consent" but on the face of it this is a pretty clear cut case of sexual assault. Nothing about the complainant's conduct in any way implied consent or vitiated her right to withhold consent, nor should any reasonable people believe that she had done so. Women should be able to, as June put it "[get] drunk with men, [get] in a hot tub with men, and [get] into a man's bed knowing he would also be in it at some point" without being sexual assaulted. Its hard to believe that this guy even tried to argue that her conduct implied consent. That is some seriously messed up thinking.

I'm not a big believer in "rape culture" but some of these comments here cause me to have second thoughts.

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Vanessa on Aug 8, 2014 at 12:53 pm

Of course this is sexual assault. She was ASLEEP when he started having sex with her.

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seriously on Aug 8, 2014 at 12:47 pm

"Men aren't helpless dick-driven maniacs who can’t help raping a vulnerable woman. [That attitude] disrespects EVERYONE.” --Emily Nagoski

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just Say'in on Aug 7, 2014 at 8:15 pm

Probably Yes does not mean Yes anymore either. Do you need a legally signed and witnessed statement or contract now or what? It would seem to me that this is not the ideal situation to put yourself in, when you wake up and don't really know what is going on I think you are putting yourself in harms way. What ever happened to some personal responsibility. Why is he the only one that is to form lucid thoughts through the drunken stupor?

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vlad on Aug 7, 2014 at 6:49 pm

Next time, have it in writing - and signed, witnessed too

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June Jackson on Aug 7, 2014 at 6:37 pm

Well.. drunk with men, in a hot tub with men, getting into a man's bed knowing he would also be in it at some point....yup..I'm one of those older generation folks that think women should take responsibility for their actions as well.

I think he should have been charged because she was too intoxicated to give consent.
But there are situations that should be avoided in terms of one's own safety.

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