Whitehorse Daily Star

Hearing grievances ‘changed me forever’: judge

In sentencing a woman for impaired and dangerous driving,

By Rhiannon Russell on September 4, 2014

In sentencing a woman for impaired and dangerous driving, a visiting territorial court judge elaborated on his experience with aboriginal offenders and his preference for alternative punishments to jail time.

Judge Dennis Schmidt ordered Teri Lynn Schinkel serve a 60-day intermittent sentence, plus two years of probation, for an incident earlier this year during which she drove drunk around Whitehorse and struck another car, injuring its passenger.

The reason for the intermittency is so Schinkel, a third-generation residential school survivor, can continue with rehabilitation and caring for her child, Schmidt said in his Aug. 14 decision.

He takes care to focus on restoration when sentencing with aboriginal offenders, he said, after an enlightening experience he had in the B.C. island community of Alert Bay.

The local First Nation invited Schmidt to a meeting, at which 500 people spent the afternoon telling him about their history: how in the 1920s, their elders were imprisoned for wearing traditional dress, going to potlatches and using traditional canoes.

“I do not know if there were 500 people in that village, but they came from everywhere because they had been promised a chance to give their opinions to a judge,” Schmidt said.

“They said this has got to stop. The last judge here was sending our people to jail just like they did in the ’20s. I heard their grievances, and it changed me forever.”

Over the next six years, he said, he didn’t send another person to jail. Instead, he strived for rehabilitative or restorative sentences.

In Schinkel’s case, he weighed her history – a difficult childhood and familial alcohol and drug abuse – with the seriousness of her crime.

She was drinking at a house party last February when her ex-boyfriend assaulted her and left the party.

Because it was cold outside and he’d left without his coat, she decided to go find him and bring it to him.

“She knew she had drunk too much, and she had drunk quite a lot,” Schmidt said.

“There was absolutely no reason for her to leave that house party to take this coat to her ex-boyfriend. If it was cold, he would come back. She was very selfish in her decisions.”

Schinkel left the party in her car, and was spotted swerving violently on the road and striking another vehicle.

At some point, she came across her ex-boyfriend, who assaulted her again.

Schinkel said she was traumatized by this and took off in the car.

For a “considerable period of time,” she drove around the city recklessly, with one flat tire, at 130 to 140 kilometres an hour, in the wrong lane, ignoring stop signs and hitting medians.

As she drove down the hill into Whitehorse, Schinkel hit another car and pushed it off the road and over a bank. That car was totalled and its female passenger injured.

Then, when paramedics arrived, Schinkel was argumentative and difficult, thrashing around and kicking. At Whitehorse General Hospital, she had to be restrained.

She later pleaded guilty to impaired driving causing bodily harm, dangerous driving, and refusing a breathalyzer.

Schmidt called impaired driving “a curse on the community,” and said it required a deterrent and denunciatory sentence.

“There must be an expectation in the community that, for this kind of driving under these kinds of circumstances – hurtling two tonnes of metal down a hill at these kinds of speeds, drunk, and unable to keep your car on the road – there will be a response and it will not be: ‘That’s good, do better next time, you have obviously been traumatized by what happened here and by your conduct.’ It has to be more than that.”

But he acknowledged that Schinkel said the accident was a turning point for her.

She said she is living the same alcohol- and drug-addicted lifestyle she’s seen in her own family, and it has traumatized her.

She wants to reform and care for her child properly.

Schmidt also referred to an oft-cited 1999 Supreme Court of Canada decision known as Gladue, which states that, due to the disproportionate number of aboriginal people behind bars and the historic treatment of aboriginal people, jail time for these offenders should be avoided when there’s a reasonable alternative.

He handed down 60 days, to be served intermittently, plus two years’ probation.

Schinkel is banned from driving for one year, and is not to consume alcohol or drugs not prescribed by a doctor.

Comments (17)

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Salar on Oct 2, 2014 at 10:54 am

Josey.....a great big aren't you awesome from Salar.....we may be related....

Teri....the best thing you can do is live what you write....I'm a huge fan of change and sincerity.

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Josey Wales on Oct 1, 2014 at 10:28 pm

Adele...side note indeed. I have a theory, imagine that eh...if I may?
Perhaps the case is still being put through the process? Or all involved are wondering which video game to take away and are deliberating how stern the talking to might be.
She is 15, we do have a Y.O.A., and our courts?
Or do you actually believe any form of punishment will be doled out?

anyone here remember my so popular but not PC post in the start of this thread?
anyone here ever wonder why that is?
anyone here ever wonder when the PC madness will end?
anyone here loathe "Gladue" gibberish?
anyone else sick of the multi-level bias our courts dole out.
anyone else remember growing up being brainwashed into believing justice, lady justice even to be blind?
anyone else...besides me wish lady justice was in fact blind and understood what justice is?

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Adele Sandrock on Oct 1, 2014 at 3:08 pm

On a side note: Why don't we hear about sentencing of the 15 year old driver in the recent Alaska Highway accident with 2 people dead?

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Josey Wales on Oct 1, 2014 at 10:42 am

Elle, safe to assume I am included in your allegation of being a intellectual laaaazy troll?
That said I'm of the opinion that Gladue, is absolute 1000% rubbish.
So can I assume I'm now a racist too for having said opinion?

So lets say Gladue is essential to the health of alleged F/N's, are F/N's the only cultural group that has experienced adversity and hardship?
Seems so when you read our local news does it not?
Ever look around town lately? We have a kaleidoscope of cultures here now.
Some "could be" from the Ivory coast, some "could be" from a myriad of "stan" countries ripe with violence and oppression.
Using Gladue gibberish as a "bar" and using your clear entitlement syndrome, should they too not be allowed to create carnage and perpetuate the violence that they "may have" seen, "may have" experienced? After all they "could be" scarred by said potentials could they not?

Every person in this country "could have" experienced things the F/N's have and alleged to have had happen. Lots of kids in history have been taken as a ward of the state and not just F/N's, I'm certain at least two were whilst I typed this.
What of WWII combat veterans and their families, both survivors and kin of death camps during that terrible time in history, are you going to try to dismiss that potential of dysfunction because they are "maybe" not culturally elite?

Okay that lap made me feel like I need a shower, so off that pity train I jump.
I never EVER will deny that aboriginals in Canada have had a shitty time in the evolution of their culture. My point is that many many people dealt/deal with epic adversity, violence,poverty,cultural identity loss/impairment, and so too are concerned by the future and what it may bring.

The FACT that so soooo many (but not all) within the cultural elitists seem to feel it is exclusively THEIR domain, is not only shameful but very very WRONG.

OJW...alleged intellectual lazy troll

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Sad on Oct 1, 2014 at 8:27 am

This woman should be in jail. She nearly killed someone. An now she's changed for the better? yeah only cause she got caught.

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Elle Woods on Sep 29, 2014 at 10:23 pm

Dear intellectually lazy trolls. If you really cared about this issue and understanding it in context you would come to court everyday to listen to sentencings like this one. No newspaper article that cherry picks from a judgement delivered orally in about 20 minutes after 6 hours of submissions both written and oral can possibly hope to communicate the nuances. For a start you could read R v Ipeelee and R v Gladue so you can learn about the law you so happily display your ignorance of.

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Hope she proves she can do it on Sep 20, 2014 at 12:12 pm

She has been given an amazing opportunity to turn her life around. For her sake and for her child's, I hope she does. If the victim truly forgave her, and she can stay sober and out of trouble, and make decent choices about her life then this will prove to be the right sentence. If not ... well, we'll see

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Groucho d'North on Sep 9, 2014 at 8:29 pm

If we really wanted to improve the legal system in Canada, we could begin by electing our judges .

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SickofTrolls on Sep 9, 2014 at 1:26 pm

The funny thing is, a lot of people posting these unforgivable comments are the same people who post a lot of the same s--t on other articles spouting their holierthanthou b--s--it, leaving these ridiculous comments caused by their misguidance by articles written by people who are trained to leave out specific details to shape the minds of the people who read them and are stupid enough to believe them.
I feel sorry for you people who have nothing better to do then sit behind the screen and judge the people you don't know by articles that do not portray people as human beings. You trolls are pathetic. And it says a lot about you when the victim and her family have been able to find the kindness and forgiveness in their hearts after truly hearing Terilynn's story and yet you sit here and continue to spout off your b--ls--t. You are what's wrong in the world, not people like Terilynn. People like Terilynn can learn to change and people like you posting these horrible comments....never will.

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Terilynn schinkel on Sep 9, 2014 at 1:17 am

There was way more to the story that meets the eye! I'm not free! I'm dealing with the consequences still and I will for ever have to live with this mistake. I sit here and read how judgmental you all are. My apologies to the victim were accepted and that's what truly matters!! None of your opinions matter to anyone! And never will!! I have done a lot since then. And me being affected by mission school is not to blame, but the choices I made that night to drink and drive. And your comments saying I should be in jail and never drive again!! So quick to judge! And that's why your sitting behind a computer without a VOICE cause your words mean nothing without actions!! This write up is so wrong in many ways!!
Don't be so stupid to believe everything you read in the paper or on the internet!! This mistake I have made, only proves I'm human. God forbid you make a terrible mistake. Everyone in that court room was crying, the judge and the crown said it was one of the most emotional DUI they have dealt with. The victim forgave me and thanked me for my letter as well as did her mother and father! That's what truly matters to me!! In the end we all began our healing from this tragic experience.
Drinking and driving won't end at me, but I know I have changed and everyone that truly knows me, knows that I'm not some loser drunk driver but a human, a mother, a daughter, a sister, a niece! And I'm proud of who I have become in the midst of all this drama!! Not of what I have done but who I will be!! And how I will raise my son to be a man! And not follow in the foots steps that generation before me were forced to follow!! I'm strong! I'm a beautiful person! I have heart! I have courage! I have dignity! I have love!! I have respect!! I will walk with my head held high and have no shame!! That's right I said walk!! LOL!!

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Face palm on Sep 5, 2014 at 1:54 pm

So if you're great grandfather was a Canadian Veteran, who suffered from post traumatic stress disorder (which has at times lead to alcoholism, abuse/aggressive behaviour, and more) you can endanger others lives? This is insane!!! And where is this whole assumed "rehabilitation" taking place? Offer programs, courses, etc. all you want they aren't going to cooperate. Because if they did and everyone healed and moved forward and made something of their huge settlements then there wouldn't be the ability to ask for more money, or use this reasoning in court any longer.
That judge maybe needs to go host a Veterans meeting, ask them why they were capable of going through all they did and still raise functioning, productive, law abiding children and grand children and great grand children. Ask them how they feel about fighting for our country and then come to find their great grand child would be punished in court but a RSS's great grand child would not. And ask them how they feel about their monetary situation for serving our country verses monies still being paid out to 3rd,4th, generation RSS's.

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sober thought on Sep 5, 2014 at 8:17 am

Omg, way to go to enable this type of behavior. I did not have a hard childhood, but my mom did spank me with a wooden spoon, can I have a get out of jail free card too? I have seen so much played out on the Gladue case, it has become the "excuse" for everything. This woman should be banned from driving for life.

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Charles on Sep 5, 2014 at 12:24 am

A ' third-generation residential school survivor'? Please spare me. Yes, learned behaviour has far reaching effects, but how many of us blame our behaviour on what a grandparent did because they were a victim of whatever? What could I use in my defense; a third generation illegitimate grand parent survivor? This nonsense is going too far and how many generations will it stretch to. What will it take before we hear the end of it?

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Rachel Austin on Sep 4, 2014 at 9:28 pm

Why are the victim's perspectives not recognized in this news article. What about the poor, unsuspecting driver of the vehicle that got knocked off the road and over a bank? I'm sure she must have been injured not to mention the trauma of being in a car accident. If her grandchildren commit a crime in 3 generations from now, will there be any special provision made for them? I doubt it.

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Bert on Sep 4, 2014 at 5:04 pm

But what about the victim?

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Wayne on Sep 4, 2014 at 4:35 pm

A one year driving ban is the minimum sentence.

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JuneJackson on Sep 4, 2014 at 4:05 pm

This case was supposed to be about Schinkel..

But..back to the case.. Holy Cow.. she's back on the street?

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