Whitehorse Daily Star

Frost undeterred by vacant Sally Ann units

Despite the suggestion that seven of the 20 transitional housing units at the new Salvation Army Centre of Hope have been sitting vacant, Health and Social Services Minister Pauline Frost said she’s satisfied with the organization’s service delivery.

By Taylor Blewett on March 21, 2018

Despite the suggestion that seven of the 20 transitional housing units at the new Salvation Army Centre of Hope have been sitting vacant, Health and Social Services Minister Pauline Frost said she’s satisfied with the organization’s service delivery.

She did note that the project agreement between the Yukon government and the Sally Ann – which pre-dates her tenure as minister – is “unique,” and that work is being done to fill all the units.

Kate White, the NDP’s Health and Social Services critic, brought up the Centre of Hope project in the legislature Tuesday.

“The government bought the piece of land that the new Salvation Army stands on, then the government paid for the new building, while the Salvation Army remains the owner of their old building,” White said.

The Yukon government invested $10.2 million for the lot purchase, design development and construction of the facility, according to a press release from its official opening last October.

“The government is also providing over a million dollars in yearly funding for the operations of the shelter and transitional units,” White noted.

“There is even a government staff person seconded to work at the Salvation Army. Yet, as of the March 13, seven transitional units remain empty.”

She reiterated the investment of Yukon dollars in the project, and asked the minister how the government was ensuring delivery on this investment.

Frost pointed out that the arrangement had been initiated before she become minister.

“My job and my responsibility was really to ensure that we work with what we had at the time and what we have today. We have a partnership arrangement with the Salvation Army, and that partnership arrangement was to ensure that we provide supports to the clients who occupy that facility.”

Frost told local media after question period that she couldn’t confirm the number of unoccupied transitional housing units at the Salvation Army. However, she hopes to see all units occupied by this Friday, when an oversight committee charged with reviewing resident intake decisions will meet.

The Star could not reach the Salvation Army’s executive director for comment this morning.

Frost noted that all of the centre’s emergency shelter beds are being occupied, and that upwards of 200 people are served every mealtime.

“The Salvation Army  has never done … a project of this magnitude before,” she pointed out.

“I would say yes, at this point, that given the circumstances and we’re early stages that I’m satisfied with where they are.

“I hope that we can always improve, and we can do better, and we can only do better if we work together.”

The oversight committee is comprised of representatives from the Yukon Anti-Poverty Coalition, the City of Whitehorse, Kwanlin Dün First Nation, the Ta’an Kwäch’än Council and the territorial government, Frost told the legislature.

The committee is working to ensure transitional units are filled and that transitional support services are in place for the residents of these units, according to the minister.

Frost called the arrangement with the Sally Ann “one of a kind.”

She said she’s not sure the government would ever enter into another arrangement with a Christian-based organization.

Officials are looking at other health and social services partnerships across the Yukon, she said, including with First Nations.

Comments (14)

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Humble Measure on Mar 27, 2018 at 9:09 am

Commenters are questioning why the government shouldn't enter into arrangements like this with a Christian organization.

Do a little reading on the fraught historical relationship between the church and aboriginal people on this continent. Then have a look online and see if you can find anything about a hidden agenda in the Salvation Army.

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Simon on Mar 26, 2018 at 2:00 pm

What exactly does "She said she’s not sure the government would ever enter into another arrangement with a Christian-based organization." mean?

Are we to assume that Frost believes Christian-based organizations are...what? Do tell. No, seriously go on.

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David Beaugie on Mar 25, 2018 at 11:43 am

Very doubtful that abuse is the cause of Salvation Army use. Very rare to find anyone with money abusing the system called the Sally Ann.

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Groucho d'North on Mar 23, 2018 at 4:13 pm

of course Frost is undeterred by vacant Sally Ann units, I'll bet she already has a place to live.

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Jake on Mar 23, 2018 at 12:08 pm

@ Huh I agree totally with everything you said My worry is the expense of it and those that play the system. Reality is there is no reason for the numbers to be so high. We are an affluent territory with about 40,000 per head funded by mostly the feds. More assessment of those in real need needs to be done and those that are abusing the system kicked off. My bet 30-40 percent are abusers.

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Karyn Atlin on Mar 22, 2018 at 4:07 pm

I think its great that this building exists in Whitehorse. I believe that when you first attempt to fill an entire building you should expect that it may not happen all at once. They seem to be working towards maximum capacity by having an oversight committee. Who cares who owned the lot previously? The scarcity of appropriate land in downtown Whitehorse must be a challenge. The simple fact that groups worked to find a solution is wonderful, Government or NGO's. Yay to Minister Frost and the Salvation Army

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Huh on Mar 22, 2018 at 3:24 pm

@Jake I think she's referring to the industry that creates an economic feedback loop for the expansion of bureaucracy and private industry while taking the means (eg. support of the Salvation Army Thrift Store) from those who are struggling with real life as non-government workers, and replacing it with Keynesian infrastructure to house a few with serious issues (the housing itself). Those who are struggling to get by, either in Whitehorse or the communities, are now forced to source their life-stuffs from cheap-crap box stores. At least an institution like the thrift store provided people of little means with the chance of getting quality items that were donated by the bureaucratic class. Now, it's all in the dump. And the classes of Yukon society become more pronounced as the days grind on: policies, and mutual back scratching, and the destruction of true community initiatives are helping us turn into another soul less southern circuit board of a town.

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Jayne W on Mar 22, 2018 at 12:01 pm

@Drum.....who cares who owned the lot. It was vacant land, people sell vacant land.

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Jake on Mar 22, 2018 at 10:17 am

@Josey You mean the industry that has been build around providing social assitance to those that need it and those that are taking advantage of it?I would bet that it is more than 50 percent for the lather Don’t get Me wrong but too much is too much everything has to be the Cadillac version. Classic example of Govt throwing money at things and hoping it will go away.

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JointVenture on Mar 21, 2018 at 9:48 pm

‘Not sure we would ever enter into another Christian-based organization ever again,’ she says . Rather uncharitable comment. Good luck in finding new project partners among the atheists, agnostics, communist sympathizer and assorted satanic hellraisers here in the Wilderness City. How about the criminally insane, terminally alcoholic, crack-heads and child rapists - real potential for initiating a worthwhile joint venture there. ( failing that, less of a venture, more of a joint to take you high on the public purse).

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Lost In the Yukon on Mar 21, 2018 at 6:34 pm

Two things:

1. Hougen Group owned the lot ... sweet deal from the Yukon Party
2. After being the Minister for HSS for over 18 months it is no longer acceptable for the Minister to say "gee whizz, it was the last guy". Being the Minister means being responsible.
This Minister has consistently shown their only interest lies outside of Whitehorse and an apparent inability to have even a rudimentary understanding of what it means to run a department.

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Josey Wales on Mar 21, 2018 at 5:13 pm

Yeah...drum, about that?
Trust me whatever is posted will in no way will represent how folks feel about this project and “the industry” that has become our economy.
What winds up “outta terms” would be far more represented of what is left of our alleged community.
Or, you will never see what it is you may think you may.
One word....sanitized.

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My Opinion on Mar 21, 2018 at 4:05 pm

So where is the Money that these two First Nations put into this project? After all they are Nations and these are their Citizens, correct????

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drum on Mar 21, 2018 at 3:31 pm

Looking forward to opinions - lots of people in this town seemed to have made mega money out of this project. Who owned the lot!!!!!!!!!!

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