Whitehorse Daily Star

YG wants centre built as soon as possible

The Yukon government is reviewing the three bids received to provide land in Whitehorse for a new convention centre.

By Chuck Tobin on December 5, 2022

The Yukon government is reviewing the three bids received to provide land in Whitehorse for a new convention centre.

The government put out a call in September for expressions of interest in providing land. The closing date was Oct. 14.

“We are meeting with each of the proponents to provide them with feedback on their proposals and discuss next steps,” Cameron Webber, a communications analyst with the Department of Tourism and Culture, explained in an email late last month.

“The department is also working to establish a joint committee with private sector representation to advance this project to the request-for-proposals stage and we hope to be able to communicate more in the coming weeks.”

The three bids received are from Canyon City Construction, the Yukon Arts Centre and the Yukon Convention Bureau Society.

Webber said the process going forward is to have discussions with all three proponents, then develop a request for proposals. All three proponents will be eligible to submit proposals, he said.

The matter of a new convention centre was raised briefly at the Nov. 21 city council meeting when Coun. Ted Laking asked what the city’s involvement is.

City manager Jeff O’Farrell said the city’s role is very limited.

City administration does not have a mandate around the convention centre, and there is no agreement between the city and the Yukon government, he said.

Key players in the tourism business told the Star in late November the need for a new convention centre is absolutely clear.

Neil Hartling, chair of the Tourism Industry Association of the Yukon, said the issue of need is not new.

There have been a number of studies, and there was a promise in the last election, he said.

Hartling said what was known as the convention centre beside the High Country Inn – formerly the Whitehorse Lions Pool – was not a true convention centre.

The former pool was too small, he said, adding that it was a meeting hall.

Hartling said as nice as the Kwanlin Dün Cultural Centre is, it too does not offer all the attributes of a convention centre, and there’s also the factor the cultural centre can be in use by the First Nation for its own needs.

What is needed, he said, is a larger facility with a larger seating capacity, that includes break-out rooms and a banquet facility.

Whitehorse needs to be compet
itive if it wants to attract the larger conventions, he said.

Hartling said the city needs more hotel rooms but it will not attract more hotels without a convention centre. It’s the chicken-and-egg scenario, he said.

Right now, Hartling said, every hotel room in Whitehorse has been booked for the summer, and it’s been that way for quite a while.

“If someone is interested in investing in a hotel in Whitehorse, they want to know they can keep it busy all year-round,” he said.

Rich Thompson of Northern Vision Development agrees, and he too sees it as a chicken-and-egg situation, although Northern Vision Development is moving forward with plans to build a new hotel.

“We can’t keep building hotels if you cannot fill them up in the shoulder season, and you are not going to fill them up in the shoulder season without having a convention centre – chicken and egg,” the chief executive officer told the Star.

Thompson, whose company already owns several hotels in the Yukon, said it would be good to have movement in the direction of a new convention centre.

“It’s an opportunity for a capital city in the North to have a proper convention centre,” he said.

Thompson said the private sector is not expecting the government to fund the entire cost’ that there may be ways for the tourism industry to contribute, perhaps by adding a room tax to their hotels.

Northern Vision Development has already announced it’s planning a 115-room Hyatt Place hotel on Main Street, on the large parking lot next beside the Best Western.

The chief executive officer said they hope to have a contract signed with the modular building supplier in a week or so. The contract with a general contractor to build the hotel is expected to follow soon after that, he said.

Thompson said they hope the new hotel would be open by the spring of 2025.

The design work, he noted, is largely complete.

Casey Prescott, the arts centre’s executive director, said they responded to the call for expressions of interest to provide land because there is room on their existing site that could accommodate a new centre.

“We are currently in the middle of a feasibility study to determine if that is even feasible to do,” he said. “The feasibility study will be completed in January.”

The study is intended to provide the information they require to make a final decision whether to proceed to the next step, he said.

Tourism and Culture Minister Ranj Pillai said in an interview late last month they’re looking at a convention centre large enough to have between 700 and 1,000 guests for a sit-down dinner.

He said the Yukon wants to be in a position by next summer to submit a funding application to the federal government for financial support.

In order to do that, Pillai acknowledged, they’ll need to have a pretty good idea of what they want to see in a convention centre so they can estimate a cost before submitting the funding request.

They want to apply for funding and get the new centre built as soon as possible, he said.

Federal Tourism Minister Randy Boissonnault, Pillai noted, was in the Yukon during the summer, visiting Whitehorse and Dawson City.

He said he has ongoing dialogue with Boissonnault and has reminded him a funding application is coming.

Comments (13)

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Douglas Martens on Dec 11, 2022 at 12:04 pm

Now watch very carefully as I move these cups around the table.... did you see that? no. ok. i'll do it again.

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Get a Life on Dec 9, 2022 at 10:44 am

I can feel my IQ plummeting reading all these bitter misinformed comments.

People that live off the government or in their parents basement no doubt with no clue on how to generate wealth and a tax base for the economy to afford all the social programs.
Leave the propaganda to the experts at CBC News and get a life.

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Who then? on Dec 7, 2022 at 9:54 am

@same old, who then received the 10 million that purchased the High Country if not NVD? Please enlighten us all. Seems pretty simple NVD owned it, YG/Feds spent 10 million. As far as below market value, have you seen the evaluation? Do you realize how old this structure is and that it was in need of a major reno. Apparently even the extra 5 million won’t be near enough to even bring it up to code, which I realize was given to a NGO. What about the fact that YG rented this empty hotel for 2 years and to this day still rent the Convention Center for an injection site that could be a much smaller venue. If you think there is not favouritism between NVD and our future Premier, I think you’ve had your head in the sand too long.

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John - with a J on Dec 7, 2022 at 9:06 am

If it wasn’t so ridiculous it would be laughable. The people making these decisions are so out of touch with reality it is incredible.
We don’t need better healthcare, we don’t need to get a handle on food or fuel costs. We don’t need affordable housing and better roads. We need a new convention centre.
I wish I could see better things coming from a change in government but I have lost faith in that too.
It seems as though each party just takes its collective turn at the tax payer feed trough.
They’re all a hypocritical bunch of con artists masqueraded as so-called politicians.

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Joe on Dec 6, 2022 at 9:21 pm

@same old… you honestly believe that old renovated 1960 something building was worth 10 million dollars ? And NVD sold it below market value? Give your head a shake, with cap rate on that old building likely worth maybe 6 million. Somebody is very happy.

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Nathan Living on Dec 6, 2022 at 11:47 am

This must mean the second phase of continuing care at Whistlebend will never happen and many social issues will not be addressed.

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Same old on Dec 6, 2022 at 9:07 am

My god, Wilf - get your facts straight. NVD did not get any funding to renovate the High Country Inn as part of the sale. NVD did not get $10 million - it sold High Country Inn below market value. These facts are part of the public record.
Mr. Facts - you seem to be such a bitter, angry person. Maybe just a troll. It is revealing to see you wish a business that has Yukon-majority ownership group to go bankrupt, nice. I agree that all in the hospitality business must pay their employees fairly or they won't find employees. It is a new reality.

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The Other Dave on Dec 6, 2022 at 3:20 am

It’s getting harder to remember back to the days in Yukon when not everything was taxpayer debt funded. Also I guess if Taga Ku had gone ahead and been completed 30 years ago this convention centre issue wouldn’t exist today.

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bonanzajoe on Dec 5, 2022 at 7:17 pm

Get ready to ante up more tax money Whitehorseites to keep the rich and wealthy rich and wealthy.

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Roy on Dec 5, 2022 at 6:55 pm

Hosting 2 week long athletic competitions and building convention centers are two of classic government strategies to quickly turn taxpayer money into privately held riches (and leave the public on the hook for the ongoing costs).

This is not just a north of 60 ploy - this happens everywhere.

Host your conventions online - it will probably cost you $50.
Save us the expense and save the fossil fuel use at the same time.

Meanwhile we can use this money to improve the lives of Yukoners - spend it on teachers and nurses and road repairs etc.
Quit spending money to throw parties for people from outside the Territory who will be here only for a few days.

This is a message for the Yukon Liberals and the Yukon Party - both of whom wanted the Winter Games and the $200 million dollar price tag. Shameful.
Fortunately the federal Liberals (who most of you blindly hate) said "What? Are you kidding? How much?! Ummmm no."

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Business case? on Dec 5, 2022 at 2:35 pm

Can we please see a robust business case and RoI for this convention centre? Same as we never saw for the mooted Canada Games?

I am tired of the public paying the costs to build and operate facilities to support the profits of private business. If this has a positive return that same private sector should invest and operate it under market principles.

Meanwhile health care struggles and schools don't have textbooks for our children. It is time we have a government that can prioritize our core needs and services.

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Mr Facts on Dec 5, 2022 at 2:23 pm

"Rich Thompson of Northern Vision Development agrees, and he too sees it as a chicken-and-egg situation, although Northern Vision Development is moving forward with plans to build a new hotel."

Your (NVD) whole business model is built around cheap labour because you are to greedy to pay someone who works for you a living wage. I hope you go bankrupt. At the end of the day, it's those workers who generate you profit. PERIOD. It's not you and your circus sitting at a desk all day looking at memes and going to useless meetings.

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Wilf Carter on Dec 5, 2022 at 2:11 pm

So Vision gets paid $10 for High Country from Federal Government plus $5 million to reno it for street people. When High Country was only worth $3 to $4 million. Federal Government has already for the down payment on new conv. center. Great Minister Palia our next Premier defacto .

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