Recycling centre muses charging tipping fees
The days of simply dropping off recyclables at a processor without thinking of the cost might be numbered.
By Stephanie Waddell on January 18, 2016
The days of simply dropping off recyclables at a processor without thinking of the cost might be numbered.
Joy Snyder, the Raven Recycling Society’s executive director, said this morning she envisions Raven charging tipping fees in the future for non-refundable recyclables – cardboard, plastic and the like.
“That’s sort of the normal model,” she said in an interview.
Recycling processors in British Columbia and Alberta charge tipping fees to haulers bringing in their recyclable waste, Snyder noted.
Raven does charge minor fees to haulers of cardboard waste as well as the Whitehorse Blue Bin Recycling, a private company that offers curbside recycling pickup as well as some commercial pickup.
However, Raven does not charge fees to most who are dropping off a mix of residential recycling materials.
Rather, it offers a 24-hour drop-off for those bringing their household recycling.
The only other recycling processor in the city is P&M Recycling.
It allows customers to drop off their recycling materials during its regular business hours.
There is currently no charge at either location to drop off non-refundables.
The city and territory, however, offer processors funding in the form of diversion credits based on the amount of recycling shipped out. The funding recognizes that waste is being kept out of the landfill.
Increased funding and changes including how often the diversion credits were handed out were made in 2014.
The changes were implemented after Raven closed its non-refundable drop-off service for several months in the fall of 2014 and into 2015.
The organization argued the diversion credits were not covering the cost of shipping the material Outside.
P&M continued to accept non-refundables during Raven’s closure.
The diversion credit system was changed as part of the short-term efforts to deal with recycling.
Work is also underway on a more long-term system for managing recycling in the territory.
Work at the territorial level has focused on changes to the refund system for beverage containers.
Meanwhile, the city is pursuing a blue bin program that would mean additional mandatory fees for those already on the city’s waste collection program.
Most recently, council voted to move ahead with a request for proposals for the program. Once the period for submitting proposals has passed, council will vote on whether to move forward with it.
As work continues on a long-term system for recycling, Snyder said, she sees tipping fees for recycling dropped as part of that.
She’s heard a number of comments from the public arguing that it currently doesn’t cost anything to recycle non-refundables.
Though residents can drop off their recycling at Raven, Snyder emphasized there is a cost attached to shipping it out.
Currently, diversion credits paid by governments contribute to the cost of shipping.
Ideally, Snyder said, she’d like to see diversion credits eventually ended in favour of extended producer responsibility which sees the cost of processing waste associated with products paid for by producers of products.
“That’s what happens in other jurisdictions,” she said, citing European markets that have seen success with such programs.
In the meantime, she argued, tipping fees at recycling centres like Raven could help address the costs of managing the waste.
“This is sort of my strategic plan I’m always working towards,” Snyder said.
Exactly if or when such a system might be implemented isn’t known. Snyder said it depends on a number of factors.
Those include what direction the city and territory take on recycling, and whether Raven’s competitor moves to a tipping fee system as well.
As Snyder noted, if a competitor doesn’t move in that direction, there’s a question of whether Raven could.
As for what the tipping fees might be, Snyder said that’s also unknown at this point.
“It would be different for each source,” she said.
Pat McInroy, the owner of P&M Recycling, could not be reached for comment by press time today.
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Comments (11)
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Wayne on Jan 19, 2016 at 4:43 pm
What? First Raven goes on strike for more money, and gets it (diversion credits). It worked so well that now they'll charge us for delivering our recycling to the dump.
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Dr Mantis Toboggan on Jan 19, 2016 at 11:05 am
It's much easier to just burn your cardboard
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Fletch on Jan 18, 2016 at 9:29 pm
Two letters P&M! Raven's a lame bird!
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jc on Jan 18, 2016 at 7:32 pm
Like I said before, theres always the bush.
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Pjt1959 on Jan 18, 2016 at 6:36 pm
North, glad you have brought up the salary of a non profit paying that much, it's like they are government employees. What is really interesting is the papers - forget that P&M is in the mix, but we only seem to hear about Raven I guess that makes it ok to pay $100,000 a year. Maybe Raven should open the books up to see what they could do better instead of whining. Yes, it cost money to run but it looks like Sima when they wanted money and high salaries. That is my rant.
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Jasper on Jan 18, 2016 at 6:22 pm
Does anybody ever think about, that Raven Recycling and the City are in Bed together with this one? Well I do not wanna sleep with neither of them. So from now on my Recycling goes in to the Garbage.
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north_of_60 on Jan 18, 2016 at 5:34 pm
That's a ridiculous idea Raven. The expense of fencing, gates and scales should be applied to doing the job you’re tasked to do.
If you want more money from the CoW, then tell them to shut down the Sustainability Department and give that half a million or more per year to Raven and the other recyclers. That unnecessary department serves no useful purpose and sucks-up funds that should be used to get the recycling job done.
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Max Mack on Jan 18, 2016 at 4:41 pm
The cost of shipping materials south from the Territories will always exceed the cost of conventional landfill. By a long shot.
This is the unquestionable truth of recycling in a northern context. However, that truth has been buried and ignored through much of the "conversation" about recycling in the Yukon. (As an aside, I wonder how much CO2 we are generating driving municipal garbage to Whitehorse, and shipping our recycling south?)
On top of increased utility charges for "garbage", tipping fees at the dump, higher "environmental" fees on an ever-broadening range of goods, potential forced curbside recycling fees, diversion (excuse the double-entendre) of millions of dollars in public funding to Raven, Snyder is now also proposing tipping fees.
Meanwhile, large quantities of materials dropped off at Raven are simply hauled to the dump since it costs too much to haul them south.
It appears that recycling really means recycling money to Raven.
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north on Jan 18, 2016 at 3:43 pm
Why do we always compare ourselves to big cities down south? Some cities also have 24 hour drop off sites where they pick up the material and bring it to their site - Lethbridge as an example...
Meanwhile the executive director is getting $100,00 plus and complaining.
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June Jackson on Jan 18, 2016 at 3:37 pm
I wish I could say everyone would see the value of having a recycle plant here, but unfortunately, when times are tough, (and even when they aren't), people resent paying.
My taxes are so high that I resent intensely having to pay a garbage fee. I think it should be covered in my taxes. But, I pay it. Others dump their garbage down the side roads, down a hill, some (the pigsters) just dump a bag of garbage on the road.
Some people who recycle now, will just throw it out the back of the truck if they are charged.
Nothing is free today, and the world is learning some harsh lessons about the years that we failed to have a care for our environment.. a fee is the price of doing business.
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Francias pillman on Jan 18, 2016 at 3:22 pm
I would rather throw my cardboard in the garbage. Ravens and eagles need materials for their nest. All I see is veiled threats from Raven recycling. I never hear p&m whining and complaining. Maybe find another business if you can't succeed in your current one.