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EXPLAINING THE PLANS – Mark Burns of the Department of Highways and Public Works talks about the new proof of COVID-19 vaccination credential service at a technical briefi ng held Tuesday afternoon.
‘Proof of vaccination will be a critical service’
The Yukon government has introduced a vaccine passport for territorial residents.
The Yukon government has introduced a vaccine passport for territorial residents.
“An online service to provide a proof of vaccination credential is now available to Yukoners. The credential is a secure, government- issued proof of your COVID-19 vaccination status,” stated a Tuesday news release from the government stated.
The announcement was made by Premier Sandy Silver that afternoon at the government’s final regular COVID-19 briefing.
“Through the new online service, Yukoners have the option to receive a digital copy or print a paper copy of their vaccination credential, which contains features to ensure the document is authentic and verified,” the premier said.
“The credential is more secure than the wallet-sized vaccination card Yukoners received when they were administered their COVID-19 vaccines.
“The vaccination card Yukoners received when they were immunized proves they are vaccinated and is currently accepted as proof in many situations,” Silver added.
“However, in the near future, this will likely not be accepted for some purposes, such as international travel. The new credential format is part of ongoing efforts in Canada and across the globe to standardize proof of vaccination.”
Silver said the vaccine passports will be accepted in most places across Canada, although he couldn’t provide a list of where it would be rejected.
The passports can also be used to access non-essential services where individual business demand it, he said.
“There are no government mandates at this time to use the certificates to gain entry to services,” Silver said.
“Proof of COVID-19 vaccination is needed when returning to Canada from international travel and the credential can be used as proof of vaccination in other jurisdictions that may require it to attend post-secondary schools or access non-essential services.”
Yukoners can request their proof of vaccination credential online at https://yukon.ca/vaccine-proof or on the phone via the COVID-19 InfoLine at 1-877-374-0425, seven days a week, from 7:30 a.m. to 8 p.m.
The new system cost $30,000 to implement. It required three months’ work, and was done by a Whitehorse company instead of in- house.
During a technical briefing held Tuesday afternoon, government officials said some of that cost might be recouped through federal funding, which is supposed to be made available.
The system is also compatible with one being designed by federal officials, the government representatives said.
“Proof of vaccination will be a critical service as we forge ahead and learn to live with COVID-19,” said Health and Social Services Minister Tracy-Anne McPhee.
“Providing Yukoners with access to a proof of vaccination credential is one way to support people who may be travelling to visit friends and family or moving to other parts of the country for post-secondary school.
“The new vaccination credential is secure proof of your vaccination status and is in a format accepted in other jurisdictions across the country,” McPhee added.
“We are pleased to be able to support Yukoners with the tools they need to travel and go places they may want to that require proof of vaccination.”
COVID-19 proof of vaccination credentials are available to any individual who received at least one of their two doses of COVID-19 vaccine in the Yukon, at least 14 days ago.
The proof of vaccination credential contains information on COVID-19 vaccination status and basic personal identifiers.
The credential has the following information: full name, date of birth, unique identifier number, vaccine product name (e.g. Pfizer or Moderna), date of vaccine administration, vaccine lot number, territory/province vaccine was delivered in and the date the vaccine credential was issued.
“We are pleased to provide Yukoners with a safe and secure way to access their COVID-19 vaccination credential online,” said Highways and Public Works Minister Nils Clarke.
“This new service will deliver easy access to your COVID-19 vaccination information while also protecting your personal data.
“This is part of our ongoing commitment to deliver a wide range of highly secure government services online,” added Clarke.
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Comments (66)
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Good luck enforcing fascist laws on Sep 19, 2021 at 1:32 pm
@ oh, lordy
I have already won the mask complaints & will be looking forward to winning my vaccine passport complaints in the near future. All these mandates are illegal & you really need to do some real research not listen to the media lies.
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Yukon David on Sep 15, 2021 at 9:14 am
North_of_60,
There are still many vaccinated people, plus restrictions have been greatly eased.
You also need to factor in that the spread would be much worse without vaccinations, and those who are vaccinated who get infected have symptoms that are far less severe. As such, vaccines are beneficial.
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North_of_60 on Sep 14, 2021 at 2:45 pm
@Yukon David
The most vaxzed countries in the world are experiencing the biggest surges of Cv 'cases' and hospitalizations. Evidence from around the world shows the Cv shot does NOT prevent the spread of the virus.
In Iceland: Vaccination Has Not Led to Herd Immunity, says Chief Epidemiologist. In the past two to three weeks, the Delta variant has outstripped all others in Iceland and it has become clear that vaccinated people can easily contract it as well as spread it to others.
https://www.icelandreview.com/society/covid-19-in-iceland-vaccination-has-not-led-to-herd-immunity-says-chief-epidemiologist/
In the Yukon the number of symptomatic cases that tested positive for Cv increased as more people were vaxzed. The same reaction to the shot has occurred in Israel and other jurisdictions with high vaxz rates.
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Bandit on Sep 14, 2021 at 2:41 pm
I am wondering is this Vaccine card here for a few weeks/months/years/forever? Nobody has mentioned that. Just curious. Maybe someone can shed some light on this. Covid19 was supposed to be over in short order but we were under restrictions for almost 18 months.
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Yukon David on Sep 14, 2021 at 9:15 am
Sarah, your so-called "fact" that vaccines do not work is highly deceptive and not grounded in any kind of science. Where are you getting your information from?
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Joe on Sep 13, 2021 at 4:29 pm
It's no longer a vaccine certificate, it's a compliance certificate. It means you're ok with letting the government tell you what to do or you lose privileges. It's complying to bashing your neighbour because he/she chooses not to get vaccinated (doesn't matter why). Shame on Canada
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Juniper Jackson on Sep 13, 2021 at 3:00 pm
To "Juniper, Your posts are getting stranger"......You said about vaccinations "if you don't, you can't travel, buy groceries, go to school, eat at a restaurant, get married, have kids, or get a job...OR you will go to jail, or lose your house in penalties". That's seriously over the top.
Thanks for your really nice opinion, most of that reply is to something I've said and are not very nice about it. However, I don't think I am over the top. Demands to see proof of vaccination are already here. So, a person has 2 choices, insist on service and make a scene, the police are called.. or return home without service. Do you not think there will be penalties for objectors?
The government relaxed the mask mandate, but asked all the stores and venues in Whitehorse to make it store policy that no one can enter if they are not masked, and maintain 6 feet. The airports, international, internal travel.. not double vaxxed, not going, a lot of that is coming FROM other countries as well.
When it becomes "Emergency Measures" again, the law will be used against us again.
Really, I'd like to see how others view this.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/vaccines/life-after-vaccination/vaccine-proof.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/10/covid-vaccines-required-for-travel-unvaccinated-people-dont-like-it.html
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/vaccinecard.html
https://www.canada.ca/en/treasury-board-secretariat/news/2021/08/government-of-canada-to-require-vaccination-of-federal-workforce-and-federally-regulated-transportation-sector.html
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Anonymous on Sep 12, 2021 at 5:36 pm
@not a fake name
Please refrain from ad hominem attacks and appeals to authority. Both are logical fallacies that poison the well by detracting from the actual arguments being put forward.
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Groucho d'North on Sep 12, 2021 at 12:09 pm
@wilf
The three minute job was done on a weekday- the other on a Saturday. Plan accordingly.
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Not a fake name on Sep 12, 2021 at 10:14 am
So many anonymous comments but not one actual doctor or healthcare professional. How very interesting...
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John, hopefully it won't come to that on Sep 12, 2021 at 7:28 am
IF cases remain manageable here, businesses likely won't have to ask for vaccination status. Right now in other parts of Canada, it's either ask for vaccinated status, or face another closure. If that's what it comes to here, I'll be supporting them.
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Wilf on Sep 12, 2021 at 2:37 am
One poster received his passport in 3 minutes, another couldn't make it through and that poster claimed to be a former IT guy, go figure?
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Groucho d'North on Sep 11, 2021 at 10:36 am
Well I tried to get my proof of vaccination credential by clicking on the link provided in this article. It worked and I was connected to the YG web page for this purpose. I filled in all the required blanks and got my confirmation number phoned to me. That's when everything stopped on page 4 of 7; there was no button to the next page where I assume I was to enter the number to validate my identity so I could complete the application. I was dead-ended. Upon further reading I called the toll free number answered by another computer that informed it's only a Monday to Friday operation - good bye. (they could have included this information on the website). Why do computers get the weekend off? Is it a union thing?
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Vern Schlimbesser on Sep 11, 2021 at 7:45 am
Reality ? Take 15 minutes and watch this, just for understanding of how we got here...
https://youtu.be/09maaUaRT4M
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DL on Sep 10, 2021 at 11:57 pm
This article fails to report the most important fact: these covid injections do NOT provide immunity. At best they lessen the covid symptoms. The evidence is that the infected vaxxed still do transmit the virus. Countries with the highest vaccination rates for covid, such as Iceland and Israel, recently had the biggest surges of covid cases.
Look up the August 12, 2021 article in the “Nature” journal, entitled: “How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says”
Quote: “Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people. This means that despite the protection offered by vaccines, a proportion of vaccinated people can pass on Delta, possibly aiding its rise.”
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02187-1
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John on Sep 10, 2021 at 10:59 pm
I'm vaccinated and if any local business asks me for proof i will never shop there again. And I will tell all my friends not to shop there. I dare you to try it.
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Martin Lehner on Sep 10, 2021 at 1:53 pm
bonanzajoe: I didn't make any comment, nor will I in this setting, about political ideology. I was merely setting the record straight on two things.
1) What technology is being used in respect to this certificate of vaccination.
2) What a "data breach" means, both by definition, and practical application, of the term, in the industry that I work in.
You can have whatever opinion you want about the political ideology of vaccines, mandates and public health measures. I'm not here to debate that with you.
Anie: No problem at all, I felt it important to explain the facts (without personal, partisan political opinion).
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Juniper, you're near the deep end on Sep 10, 2021 at 1:49 pm
Your posts are getting stranger. You said about vaccinations "if you don't, you can't travel, buy groceries, go to school, eat at a restaurant, get married, have kids, or get a job...OR you will go to jail, or lose your house in penalties". That's seriously over the top.
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Rebel News, oh, lordy on Sep 10, 2021 at 1:42 pm
Well I gritted my teeth and looked up the link, and it's a form for submitting a complaint to Yukon Human Rights Commission - nothing earth-shaking. But if those of you who are complaining about fascism/totalitarianism, vaccine status and credentials etc etc ... I look forward to you having the gumption to actually submit a Human Rights complaint, or sue a business who asks for vaccine credentials. I'm curious to see how it will play out.
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Chuck Farley on Sep 10, 2021 at 1:20 pm
it took me about 3 minutes to receive my passport I'm good to go esp to see my Blue Bombers.
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Sarah Davison on Sep 10, 2021 at 11:57 am
When are public health officials going to admit that surgical masks are designed and used to prevent the spread of bacteria, NOT viruses?
Repeated studies have shown that surgical masks do little to inhibit the spread of Coronavirus because it is a virus, not a bacteria.
Corporations should be sued to force the abandonment of the hysterical public theatre of obligatory mask wearing, and all other Covid controls should also be lifted because the disease is well under control. People are still dying from Covid but they are, in general, old, and/or suffering from co-morbidities, mainly compromised immune systems from a variety of causes. Most people will escape severe Covid now and there are increasingly effective therapeutics and a well established medical protocol that pretty much guarantees survival.
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Groucho d'North on Sep 10, 2021 at 10:22 am
Each day our nation creeps closer to totalitarianism because as they say - "It's for our own good."
"While the State exists, there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no State." Lenin
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Good luck enforcing fascist laws on Sep 9, 2021 at 9:35 pm
to 'i think businesses will be OK"
As long as the businesses can afford the $100,000 fine plus legal fees for violating human rights, I guess they will be going strong in the future.
For all the unv@xed here is the link to file your complaints. https://www.rebelnews.com/yukon_complaint
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JC on Sep 9, 2021 at 7:27 pm
Politico has it right. Smartphones and RFID tech means your government LEOs and Intelligence apparatuses can already find you whenever they want, with only the vaguest gestures towards your so-called rights. Most activities that have potential for great harm are regulated to some degree.
Protests about autonomy, freedom, or rights on this issue are typically workarounds for misguided, pre-existing bias, undereducated petulance, or both.
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JC on Sep 9, 2021 at 7:18 pm
Bananajoe thinks the Marxist Liberals are resetting cookies to make his comments "seem" unpopular.
Everyone knows that this is the Star Comment Section, and resetting cookies is for reactionaries only!
Also LOL that harmless protests gets things done.
Riots and strikes get things done. Rallies raise awareness at best. So what's your play?
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JC on Sep 9, 2021 at 7:14 pm
Love comparing Nazi action to public health measures. Not at all babybrained nonsense perpetuated by petulant whinyfolk.
Just insanity.
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JC on Sep 9, 2021 at 7:12 pm
Being refused service for not being vaccinated (not a medical condition, a choice to avoid social responsibilities, of a type for which similar exclusions have been held before, quit being babies) is not at all the same as being refused service for queer, or dark skin. What a laughable premise.
Some people want to be oppressed soooo bad, I STG
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Juniper Jackson on Sep 9, 2021 at 7:08 pm
Anonymous: You are quite right. Nothing can or should be compared to the 1938-44 holocaust. I was not attempting to compare the holocaust to covid/disease.
I was attempting to draw a comparison in tracking human beings. Every bad government in history has attempted some kind of tracking. Perhaps, in the very beginning, tribe A wanted to track tribe B, to find out where they were hunting/gathering. The first tracking device then, would be, spying. Now, big business tracks where you go, what you buy, how much you spend, and you see ads appearing targeting you. Tempting you to spend more money.
Now? Who knows? To those who say, you aren't being forced to do anything. uh huh. Passive/aggressive attack. You are NOT being forced to get a health/vaccination passport. But, if you don't, you can't travel, buy groceries, go to school, eat at a restaurant, get married, have kids, or get a job...OR you will go to jail, or lose your house in penalties. What the government is saying is just so much horse****. Of course they are forcing you...but to what end? Why are they tracking us? Remember back when?? Ontario developed an app for your cell phone that would tell you if you were close to anyone with covid? Don't hear about that one anymore. Trudeau used it to track everyone that was out of the country that Christmas with a travel ban in force. Did that app die a quiet death?
A pandemic that wasn't, an unnecessary lockdown, a government that can't be trusted. What conclusion would i draw from that? None. I never wanted to be tracked and I still don't.
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bonanzajoe on Sep 9, 2021 at 5:48 pm
Martin Lehner: I'm not a specialist, but I have 8 decades of knowledge and experience at how governments work. The Liberals have become Marxist socialists. The NDP always were - they make no bones about it. The left wing governments - Liberal - are up to something and it has everything to do with taking away the freedoms of all Canadians. I have seen the trend since 1968 when Pierre Trudeau became PM. I don't know how it can be stopped now. But get ready for total 1984. The ideology is here, the practice is coming soon. So, sorry but you won't make a believer out of me.
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You're incorrect, Mike C on Sep 9, 2021 at 4:55 pm
The Canadian Human Rights Act says businesses can't refuse service based on "race, religion, sex, and age". Plus violent behaviour, actions that threaten other customers or employees, intoxication, or 'infractions of store policies'. Courts always side with the businesses, unless refusal is based on the 4 main categories, and then it would be discrimination.
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You have no idea on Sep 9, 2021 at 4:51 pm
Legal or not it does not matter. YG has no qualms about violating the law. It has yours and everyone else’ money to spend in the fight against those who ‘dare’ oppose them.
Because YG is the Human Rights Commission… It gets its funding from YG Justice and the Commission is very skilled in shaping its interpretation of Human Rights in favour of the employer…
So, the government does what it wants because it dehumanizes you through the lens of its interpretation of your Human Rights - They are not absolute and your rights can be very clearly infringed and you will have no recourse…
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ok, well - whatever on Sep 9, 2021 at 4:48 pm
Sarah you said "Nobody is obligated to comply with involuntary disclosure of health status" - there is no involuntary disclosure being talked about here. No one is being forced to reveal their vaccination status - but if a business or service requires one in order to provide service (which is absolutely legal, as are other conditions of service), then a person with a vaccine credential can choose to do that.
And you said "The government does not have the authority to impose vaccine passports". Not sure what you mean - YG has provided a means for people to prove their vaccination status. But governments have already imposed requirements for vaccination, if that's what you're getting at? Airlines, trains, transit systems, and discretionary services - they absolutely have the right to insist on that.
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MikeC - You're incorrect on Sep 9, 2021 at 4:02 pm
A business can't refuse service for a person based on their medical condition, their beliefs, their sex, their race, etc.
If a business implement a policy that discriminates, the business can be subject to litigation. This is similar to a restaurant saying, "We won't serve cake to homosexuals." The restaurant lost the case. At no time is it legal to discriminate against an individual; UNLESS, you're doing so based on a law. Vaccines are not mandatory (that will be the next big change). As of now, vaccination is voluntary, not required, and a business refusing service based on that is open to human rights complaints.
Now, the question of "employment," or requirements of employment means that it would need to be proven that a vaccine is a necessary requirement to perform the job. Meiorin was a firefighter that proved that having people do "push ups" or "running not fast enough" was an arbitrary requirement of employment.
Vaccination is going to prove the same thing. 1) Vaccines do not stop you for getting or transmitting the virus 2) Vaccines are only effective for 6 months, they diminish rapidly after that 3) These are not vaccines but rather immune boosters. 4) A unvaccinated person is less likely to spread a more virulent version of the virus.
Remember when we were kids
1) Always finish your medication because you'll make bugs stronger if you don't.
2) Don't use medication unless necessary because you're helping viruses get stronger.
The more we "boost" our immune system artificially, without killing the virus, the more we're allowing the virus to mutate and gain strength. Notice how all of the "variants" are coming out after vaccinations? Had we not got vaccinated, yes, a small proportion of the population may have died. What we have now is a stronger virus that will effect more of the population and will continue to mutate and spread in vaccinated bodies. A super strong virus in a non vaccinated person won't spread, as the person will die.
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Sarah Davison on Sep 9, 2021 at 1:43 pm
Nobody is obligated to comply with involuntary disclosure of health status. The government does not have the authority to impose vaccine passports .
Fact: Covid has a 98.3 percent survival rate. There is no justification whatsoever for any type of radical health policy controls with that sort of survival rate.
Fact: The death rate from Covid has crashed. You are far more likely to die of flu now than Covid. You are about as likely to die from a lightning strike as you are from Covid now.
Therefore, Fact: This is no longer a pandemic. It's no longer even an epidemic.
Fact: Vaccines don't work, therefore mandating their use is idiotic. An Israeli study recently showed a 54 percent immune response after six months. The vaccinated are getting Covid.
The idea that a vaccine passport is either necessary or justifiable under these circumstances is ridiculous. Citizens need to stand up and put a stop to this. None of these politicians have the authority to impose fascistic controls on freedom of movement, freedom of association, or freedom of speech and expression under any circumstances, but certainly not under these ones.
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check this out, Matthew on Sep 9, 2021 at 12:51 pm
Yukon.ca has a section on healthy eating, and has had for years. There's even an extensive section on Vitamin D, so please stop saying that YG hasn't promoted healthy lifestyles and diet (public health clinics, nutritionists available etc etc). That said, all the vitamin D in the world can't prevent an infection from a virus that a body has never encountered before.
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Anie on Sep 9, 2021 at 12:46 pm
Martin Lehner, thank you for taking the time to share your expertise. Factual information is always more useful than hysteria. Sadly, many seem to prefer the scary nonsense . Not much we can do about that.
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I think businesses will be ok on Sep 9, 2021 at 12:45 pm
Over 80% of eligible people have received 2nd doses, and likely more to come (assuming those who got 1st dose will get 2nd dose). Those are the folks who buy items, eat out, go to gyms etc, meaning there are only about 2500-3000 people in the entire territory who will be not able to be vaccinated, and unable to get a vaccine credential, very much the minority. I'm hoping the numbers are as high for the 2-11 year olds when the vaccinations are available to that age group.
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Religious belief on Sep 9, 2021 at 12:41 pm
A person can have a belief that their natural immune system will cope. They must be allowed to practice that belief unless there is a law against it.
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Max Mack on Sep 9, 2021 at 12:21 pm
Booster shots are definitely in the works. Your so-called vaccine passport will soon require an annual (or even semi-annual?) shot -- not only for covid, but now also for the flu.
"Our number-one priority as a company right now is to bring to market a pan-respiratory annual booster vaccine, which we plan to always customize and upgrade,"
See https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/moderna-novavax-combined-vaccines-1.6169305
Still think vaccine passports are a great idea? Your passport will undoubtedly be tied to these boosters.
Essentially, you will be committing yourself to a lifetime of mandatory vaccinations, aka "immunity by subscription". This will be a gold mine for big pharma and the looming totalitarian and intelligence state.
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Denis on Sep 9, 2021 at 11:46 am
Thanks Mr. Premier Et Al. I am currently on a wait list for serious surgery at a Vancouver Hospital, continuously on remand because of CoVid. Word from a Vancouver Hotel and Hospital is that this document will be beneficial to get things moving.
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jeff bikaboom on Sep 9, 2021 at 11:07 am
“There are no government mandates at this time to use the certificates to gain entry to services”
What's the schedule to mandate it? By December maybe? Yukoners are going to need some incentives to get the booster. Or not, they lined up pretty quickly for the first ones.
When mandates are implemented, and they will be, it isn't the segregated people without immunity portfolios that will suffer, it is the businesses. Businesses will be severing ties with consumers for life, pushing them to online alternatives that are far from locally owned.
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Groucho d'North on Sep 9, 2021 at 10:20 am
I have yet to hear how this whole passport system will be enforced. Will vendors and retailers be required to enforce the removal of persons who either do not have or refuse to produce a vaccine confirmation document?
I feel for the already overworked RCMP and community police forces who will be involved in this poorly considered development in the fight against COVID.
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for a bit of legal advice on Sep 9, 2021 at 10:18 am
I just watched an interesting interview with the head of Canadian Civil Liberties Union who, when asked about religious exemptions for vaccination, basically said there are none (he actually said he was unaware of any religion in Canada whose beliefs would be a valid reason for exemption). So I'm not sure of the circumstances of your human rights decision, or what the premise was, but it seems contrary to everything that's taking place.
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Martin Lehner on Sep 9, 2021 at 10:18 am
Max Mack: Hi there ! I'm an IT professional with a specialization in the legal and regulatory field as it pertains to digital data, with a further specialization in PHI (Protected Health Information). First off, the solution isn't an "app". The website is a secured authentication gateway to access a PDF of the certificate. The PDF can then be sent to an e-mail address - this is actually where an insecurity exists, as e-mail is not a secure method of transmitting data. The PDF document has a birthdate on it, so there is an element of PPI (Personal Private Information) that could be exposed. That being said, you can also choose to have the document printed off and physically mailed to you. This is likely a more secure method, as you could scan it yourself once you've received it.
That being said, you stated "your privacy is breached the very second that you reveal your vaccination status to any person or business or agency". This isn't really accurate, as a "breach" is defined as "an incident where information is stolen or taken from a system without the knowledge or authorization of the system's owner". If you voluntarily choose to disclose the information, by way of handing over the document, then it's not a "breach" by definition of the term. It's you, willing sharing your vaccination status.
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Groucho d'North on Sep 9, 2021 at 10:13 am
I am pleased to see the government included a static paper option for this passport. Too much of our lives is now dependant on some digital network with a history of failing when it is needed.
"Sorry the computers are down- can you come back later?"
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There are still options on Sep 9, 2021 at 7:23 am
If you're worried about New World Order, or privacy, there are still options. Don't get vaccinated, and you won't be able to get a credential. Or get vaccinated, but don't download the credential if you are concerned. No one is being forced to do either
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To 'a bit of legal advice' on Sep 9, 2021 at 7:21 am
Was your business here in the Yukon? I'm curious as to 'belief', as businesses have denied service to customers all over Canada for the past 18 months, based on public health orders, and I haven't heard of a successful lawsuit. More detail, please?
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Matthew on Sep 9, 2021 at 6:51 am
@ABitOfLegalAdvice thanks for sharing your story! This will be the new normal, and it SHOULD be! Until all spineless people grow one this will continue.. I say NO to segregation, anyone with common sense would say that too! As vaccines do NOT provide immunity, especially a brand new experimental one that was rolled out so fast they have ZERO idea what's actually going to happen..
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Matthew on Sep 9, 2021 at 6:48 am
Where the heck has democracy gone!? Still boggles my mind that so many are so scared of this virus and its countless varients.. why now of all times are they pushing an experimental vaccine!? We fought the last 100+ years to NOT have a segregated society yet here we are, fully segregated in a year! Black vs White didn't work, Man vs Woman didn't work, Religion vs Religion didn't work, Gay vs Straight didn't work, turns out vaccinated vs non vaccinated works! Again, all this for a virus that has such an extremely high survival rate, absolutely mind boggling. What's worse we can't even ask common sense questions to our officials that are supposed to work FOR us.. not ONE story has come out sharing how to build a strong immune system..not ONE! How do they even sleep at night!? Sold their souls..
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Salt on Sep 8, 2021 at 11:26 pm
Welcome back to the age of human chattel. Two weeks to flatten the curve will echo through the history books. We are now rapidly approaching a totalitarian state. An amalgam of government and corporate power where no papers equals no travel, no commerce, no job. COVID vaccine passports will become annual booster dependant, then flu/chicken pox/MMR/etc dependant. But wait, vaccines aren’t the only social good. Maybe the passport should reflect all the ways you are a good citizen! Incorporate a social credit score that reflects all your personal habits. Digital currency will be rolled out, which can then be conveniently tied to your new citizen card. Then maybe they decide they have to do something about smokers, drinkers or obese people. Not a problem, just limit the purchases appropriately. Someone likes to protest a little too much? Revoke their ability to travel or impact their social credit in order to incentivize others to ostracize them. The history of human nature is available to anyone who cares to look. I can not fathom how more people don’t realize where this is going.
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TS on Sep 8, 2021 at 9:59 pm
This has little to nothing to do with health at this point. We started 2020 genuinely concerned about people’s health but it’s morphed into something quite different now.
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Getthefakouttahere! on Sep 8, 2021 at 8:23 pm
I will be demanding to see proof of vaccination from every staff member, every customer, and all individuals who have provided services to the establishment.
I will now be carrying a 2. 3 metre Covid Physical Distancing stick. I expect that every person walking by me on the street will maintain a 2 metre safe zone or be subjected to some poking, prodding, and potential whacking if you fail to desist.
This is absolutely horse-s**t and it should be abandoned now. I think that Hollywood was beta testing today’s society with movies like Aeon Flux, Hunger Games, and others… Crazy!
We have been told that “we” are moving towards a better society - You/we are not. You are creating ever expanding intersectionalities which you claim are beneficial rather than, what they are, a toxic reinforcement of tribalism - The psychological equivalent of the purge.
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Jim Bob on Sep 8, 2021 at 8:23 pm
@A bit of legal advice for businesses
I seriously doubt that ever happened. A lot of major sport venues in Canada are requiring proof of vaccine to attend and I'm sure wouldn't if they were opening themselves up to a lawsuit.
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Anonymous on Sep 8, 2021 at 7:44 pm
Juniper Jackson!!!! I am so saddened by the fact that you try to liken this to holocaust victims!!!!! I know both you and your child and have had such great appreciation for you. However, it is a great insult to people who had relatives who actually were victims of the holocaust or those who secretly tried to help those victimized by this horrific event. This is nothing like the tragedy that occurred at that time.
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MikeC on Sep 8, 2021 at 6:28 pm
@ A bit of legal advice for businesses
Ahh no! Wrong! Restaurants, gyms, theatres etc. are non essential services and actually can refuse service to anyone but good times for you anti vaxxers you go to church and to Walmart! This has well established in law and was already challenged by a guy in Newfoundland and the court denied it.
As well as if you want to go back to 1905 during the small pox epidemic the US Supreme Court ruled 7 - 2 in favour of the US government to mandate vaccines for all the citizens in the states as the state gets to say if it has reasonable grounds during a public health crisis it can say mandatory vaccines are a requirement to protect its citizens. So what I’m saying be thankful it hasn’t been mandated yet for everybody but you and all your anti vaxxers buddies have fun at Walmart..btw 70% of Canadians say vaccines passports should be mandated. So just like issues on the environment, gun laws and abortion. Your out of touch!
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concerned on Sep 8, 2021 at 6:13 pm
The majority always believes they are on the right side of history when oppression is occurring right before them. History will once again prove that the majority which exists right now to be utterly, and horrifically wrong. They will be shown to have been in full support of the modern day "burning of the witches." (Hint for those who need it - the "unvaccinated" are the "witches")
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bonanzajoe on Sep 8, 2021 at 5:15 pm
Judging by all the down arrows on all these comments, it appears Silver, and the Covid Doc - running for Liberal MP and other Liberal and NDP government bureaucrats are busy with the down arrow key.
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bonanzajoe on Sep 8, 2021 at 5:10 pm
A bit of legal advice: Citizens have to get motivated. Especially right wingers. They need to get signs and protest in front of the business. The left wingers do it. And they get positive results.
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bonanzajoe on Sep 8, 2021 at 5:05 pm
Juniper: The chip is coming, but it will include all the persons information from womb to tomb. And it will be the Marxist Liberals that will implement it. Expect it within the next 10 years. Vote Liberal - vote out Liberty. Oh, and your bank accounts too.
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Politico on Sep 8, 2021 at 4:49 pm
@ Daphne - Oh yes we've lost our freedom. So get back in your car with your gov mandated driver's license, gov mandated insurance and registration, your cell phone cause you don't want a tracking device on you, all those plastic cards that track your every purchase and cry about all the freedoms a piece of paper you'll need because no one will lie about their vax status!
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Daphne on Sep 8, 2021 at 4:28 pm
New World Order losing our freedom with power and control. We are losing our Canada.
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worked well on Sep 8, 2021 at 3:48 pm
It took maybe 2 minutes ... and it seems as though they've considered people who might not have smart phones. The FAQ section recommends getting a paper copy and taking a screenshot of the QR code, or getting a digital copy and printing it off. If - or when - booster shots are rolled out, we'll have to download a new credential.
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Max Mack on Sep 8, 2021 at 3:47 pm
A secure app? Hmmm. I am highly skeptical about that.
Regardless of how "secure" this app is, your privacy is breached the very second that you reveal your vaccination status to any person or business or agency.
The vaccination passport or certificate or health pass (or whatever you call it) is a trap. With politicians pushing for booster shots, it is only a matter of time before you must present proof of the annual or semi-annual booster or the whatever-is-the-latest-"greatest"-vaccine for the latest variant.
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A bit of legal advice for businesses on Sep 8, 2021 at 3:21 pm
If your business or service requires people to provide proof of vaccination before providing service, you open yourself to lawsuits. I speak from experience.
I had a customer come in that did not want to provide proof of vaccination. I refused to provide service. Well, under the charter you cannot discriminate based on belief. An individual is also allowed to practice their belief as long as it doesn't break any laws. Well, guess what. Vaccinations, sorry, boosters are not mandatory, they are not required by law.
A customer filed a complaint with the human rights commission and i'll be stuck paying a settlement.
Thanks Liberal B.S. --- why don't you explain to the public that, NONE OF THIS IS REQUIRED! THEY ARE SUGGESTIONS AND ARE NOT LAW!
Businesses are not required to ask for a vaccine passport, they are not required to ask you to wear a mask, and if a business decides to --- they are on the hook for the legal costs.
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Juniper Jackson on Sep 8, 2021 at 3:11 pm
Perhaps Silver can just arrange to have a "6+1=7" tattooed on the arm of people who have 2 vaccinations, and you can add to it once the 3rd, 4th, etc come in. Will save a lot of money. OR, it's been suggested, perhaps the Liberals can just shoot a little chip into a person, and hand out scanners to all travel and business. We can be scanned in the doorway for flu, TB, covid, etc. Just like the airport scanners and metal detectors.
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JSM on Sep 8, 2021 at 2:29 pm
I cant wait to be held up by the Gestapo for something as trivial as vaccine status. Liberals running mad with power making sure everyone is tracked and followed. How is this even necessary when they say themselves we have made it over the hump. Seems like a way to keep us all subjugated. Sickening.