
Photo by Vince Fedoroff
SORELY NEEDED – The warehouse in question is essential to its operations, P&M Recycling has told the city.
Photo by Vince Fedoroff
SORELY NEEDED – The warehouse in question is essential to its operations, P&M Recycling has told the city.
P&M Recycling is challenging a city order to stop operations out of its Sixth Avenue warehouse.
P&M Recycling is challenging a city order to stop operations out of its Sixth Avenue warehouse.
P&M owner Pat McInroy appeared before city council Monday night.
He defended his application for an amendment to the Official Community Plan (OCP) that would permit P&M to continue the storage and processing operations out of the warehouse.
In November 2015, P&M was issued the order to cease operations at that building by last Friday.
The recycling operations were found to be in contravention of the property’s mixed-use commercial zoning.
As it’s stated in the order signed by planning manager Pat Ross: “When the property was zoned CM2, there was a non-conforming use present on the site.
“However, such non-conforming use at the time of implementation of the CM2 does not now permit the use of the property for a recycling business. No development permits has been issued for this use and no business licence has been obtained for the operations of a recycling business at this location.”
Ross recognized that McInroy has continued operating from the facility in spite of the order.
However, since the business owner is in the appeal process, pursuing the OCP change, Ross took no issue with the continued operations.
As McInroy explained in his presentation to council, the situation has come about in part due to growth in his business, though that has slowed down in recent months.
He noted that between 2011 and 2015, P&M’s shipped tonnage of recyclable waste rose by 350 per cent.
Initially, P&M rented out space in the building that then belonged to the Boys and Girls Club of Yukon, to store an expanding amount of cardboard that was coming in.
“We were getting tight on space,” McInroy said of the company’s Ray Street depot, where residents drop off their recycling.
McInroy bought the Sixth Avenue building in 2014 to store and separate recyclables.
When his competitor, the Raven Recycling Society, closed its doors to non-refundable recyclables for several months beginning in October 2014, P&M continued to accept both refundables and non-refundables.
“We saw a crazy amount of material coming our way,” McInroy said.
Acknowledging that while he was not happy about the appearance outside the building, with numerous recyclables piling up, he could not “turn a blind eye” to the need for non-refundable recycling in the city to have somewhere to go.
During that time, he said, the company dealt with both the city’s bylaw and fire department, with the recycling now down to acceptable levels.
Raven has since began accepting non-refundables again. And, given the situation with the large amount of recycling, P&M and a private recycling hauler, Whitehorse Blue Bin Recycling, have parted ways.
Whitehorse Blue Bin Recycling had been bringing the recycling it collects to P&M.
The two companies ended their agreement amicably. The blue bin company now takes the recycling collected to Raven. And that means less pressure on P&M’s operations at the Sixth Avenue warehouse.
“It has slowed down a lot,” McInroy said.
The seven-day-per-week operations from the facility are no longer, with a typical work week for the Sixth Avenue site now being Tuesday to Saturday.
Under questioning from council, McInroy confirmed that if the order to cease operations is enforced, he would be unable to operate out of the facility in processing and storing material.
He also said he is open to discussions about potentially swapping land with the city should a more suitable location for his business be found.
Throughout his presentation, McInroy cited the city’s goal of diverting waste from the landfill and the role P&M plays in that.
As planning manager Ross explained later in the meeting though, there is a challenge in finding such a space in a more industrial area, as P&M requires a building along with the land.
There is also an added challenge in that the warehouse is close to the company’s drop-off depot, which currently makes it easy for staff to move between the two locations.
After listening to McInroy’s presentation, council also heard from resident Chris Isaak.
He spoke on behalf of his family and his parents who live in the same area.
Pointing to a significant amount of work done to landscape the families’ yards, he said the dust, noise, and the blocking of driveways by machinery and the like have caused an exhausting amount of frustration and stress for residents.
Recyclable waste often ends up on or near residential properties, he said.
“This mess renews itself almost daily,” Isaak commented, adding the dust in the area has taken on a toll on his mother, who suffers from asthma.
Plans to put in garden suites have also been “derailed” due to the situation, he said.
Isaak added, though, that McInroy has done his best to work with the family on the issues, but the situation seems impossible to control.
The warehouse operation should be located in an industrial area, he emphasized.
Under further questioning from council, Isaak said his issue is with the warehouse alone and not the Ray Street depot.
The latter facility is in full compliance as an existing non-conforming use. (That means the operation was in place before zoning was changed and can therefore continue to operate.)
Isaak went on to describe the Ray Street operation as being “quite well-managed.”
In bringing forward his report on the proposed OCP amendment, Ross took an unusual move: he recommended that council defeat it at first reading and that the order to cease operations be enforced.
Typically when an OCP amendment is proposed, city staff recommend it move forward at least past first reading to allow for public input.
As Ross explained, in this case, the proposal “directly collides” with the OCP. It’s therefore the position of city staff that first reading should be defeated.
Ross’ report goes on to point out the mixed-use – residential/commercial designation of the property in the OCP – does not contemplate recycling as a use.
Recycling, it was noted, is incompatible with the mixed-use character of the neighbourhood.
“The subject lot is immediately adjacent to numerous residential properties, a hotel and several commercial businesses,” the report states.
“The industrial nature of the recycling business in this location has led to numerous complaints being received by the city and there is a detailed history of incompatibility with different land uses in the area.”
Ross also acknowledged the city’s waste diversion goals, stating: “The OCP includes policies aimed at achieving zero waste in the City of Whitehorse.
“These policies include developing waste diversion programs and encouraging recycling programs and diversion credit programs.
“However, while the OCP supports recycling operations within the city, they should be located in appropriate areas and developed subject to applicable zoning regulations.”
Concerns about fire safety have also been expressed by the city’s fire prevention office.
They include the adequacy of the building’s sprinkler system and the close proximity of outdoor storage to overhead power lines.
As Mayor Dan Curtis said in an interview following the meeting, the issue is a challenging one.
He would not comment on how he might vote on the matter next week.
Last night’s meeting was a chance to consider the issue with the vote still another week away.
“We have to follow due process,” he said.
Questioned about the various issues being faced in the matter – zoning and OCP designations versus waste diversion – Curtis noted that if the city order to cease operations stands, he would like to see work continue between the city and P&M to find a more appropriate location for the company to continuing warehousing and processing material.
“I’m optimistic,” he said.
If, on the other hand, council votes to move forward with first reading of the OCP change next week, a public hearing on the matter would be scheduled for council’s Feb. 22 meeting.
A report on the hearing would follow on March 7, with second reading coming forward March 14.
If that passes, like any OCP amendment, approval by the territorial minister is then required.
With a 45-day period set aside for that, third reading wouldn’t likely come back to council until May 9.
Coun. Dan Boyd was absent from last night’s council meeting.
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Comments (26)
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City of Whitehorse needs an industrial adjustment fund on Jan 23, 2016 at 2:53 pm
The City could buy PM land and building and provide other land and give him the money to build a new modern facility. Then that site can be sold for low income apartments.
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Smurf on Jan 23, 2016 at 9:33 am
Bill doesn't like what corrupt and greedy place this city has become.
Bill is fed up with all these money pits and rising costs.
Bill doesn't want to pay for costly projects and useless departments anymore.
Bill doesn't want to live in neither a smelly desert nor in crappy overpriced houses with outrageous property taxes.
Bill is moving south!
Be smart - be like Bill!
(*sarcasm off*)
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Andrea S on Jan 21, 2016 at 10:34 am
I live a block away from this mess and I too am tired of all the heavy traffic, all the homeless people constantly walking by my house carrying bags of cans etc, smell, noise, garbage everywhere. I would love to see industrial money making machines in a area built for them. My neigbourhood is for the people. Move PM somewhere it won't effect regular peoples everyday lives. I'm a strong believer in recycling and would not want to see you stop, but please move.
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Murray on Jan 21, 2016 at 6:59 am
Let's get a few things straight. P&M receives government subsidies JUST LIKE Raven through the city's and YG's diversion credits. P&M is NOT self sustaining like some have claimed here. P&M is a FOR profit business while Raven is NON profit. P&M is illegally operating out of that warehouse without a business license or the required permits. P&M is located in an incompatible area with residential homes literally across the lane. P&M has received numerous warnings from the city that were not taken seriously until it got to this point. Those are the facts.
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Kelly C on Jan 20, 2016 at 4:39 pm
Doug Rutherford...some information you might like to consider...the second building that has become the issue was purchased LONG after the rezoning that 'grandfathered' the bottle depot building. This building was knowingly purchased and used for industrial operations years after the area was rezoned residential/commercial, all without a license and permit. P&M is now asking for rezoning, long after the purchase, because residents are fed up and have been complaining. The business in this building was not 'existing' as you suggest.
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Chris Isaak on Jan 20, 2016 at 1:59 pm
Put yourself in my shoes! …We are the ones in the direct line of FIRE here (No pun intended) being this operation is in our face both day & night 7 days a week & are witness to everything that unfolds & have no reason to make up stories. Therefore my representation speaks from firsthand experience. This building has been operating without a business license & permit from the get go. We have been more than patient allowing this to go on for years and giving P & M every chance to improve upon their operation by talking to Mr. McInroy on several occasions along with city expressing our frustrations and concerns.
Regardless of all other points this is simply an industrial business that is operating in our residential area. Not a good look for Whitehorse! We support recycling & want others to do the same but in a properly zoned area where it doesn’t disturb & upset the residents and make for an unsightly eyesore. Rest assured the original P&M recycling center will keep on operating (legally at that).
I think our Mayor and Council have a pretty good understanding of the issue at hand & will do what’s right and fair given the circumstances. Mayor Dan Curtis had nothing but praise & thanks to Pat, his family & his business and wants to help accommodate him and is very optimistic about their future. On top of that Mayor Curtis was also the first to acknowledge that city’s municipal yard is not really in an ideal location should eventually be relocated & these properties redeveloped.
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Leah on Jan 20, 2016 at 1:59 pm
Firstly, it's important to understand that no one, neither the City nor the residents, are trying to shut P&M down. People should know this before commenting on how 'convenient' P&M is and how 'political' the issue is. The bottle depot and recycling drop off would remain open and operating as usual. This is regarding a second building they are using that is not zoned for the use it is being used for. P&M does not have a license or permit to operate an industrial business in this other building, which is zoned residential/commercial. Does that not seem concerning to anyone? Imagine an industrial business, without a permit, opening and operating next door to your home.
Secondly, it's pretty convenient for Mr McInroy to say the letter was not a fair representation. It would not be to his benefit to admit what is actually happening there. This building is not only used for storage, there is industrial machinery running inside and outside the building. Machinery going up and down the alley from one building to the other, 7 days a week; yes even Sunday's. It is a fire hazard and an accident waiting to happen. Also, doesn't P&M receive grants?
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Just Sayin' on Jan 20, 2016 at 9:28 am
Yet, P & M has to pay taxes and those taxes are used to support their competition.... but P &M doesn't receive monies similar to Raven. This makes much sense. Pay to compete against a competition you have to support. COW you suck.
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Pat McInroy on Jan 20, 2016 at 12:13 am
I would remind Mister Ross that he was fine with this building in its current role for many years in fact he told me on occasions that as long as there was no further complaints that there was no longer an issue. As of last nights declaration from Mister Isaak to council I feel that all issues can be mitigated fairly easily. I am always open to talking to people I consider friends and offered such to his family yet was not taken up on the offer. Needless to say I do not think the letter read into council last night is a fair representation of what is truly happening.
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Seriously? Come on people on Jan 19, 2016 at 10:19 pm
What has to happen? Does the building need to go up in flames and take out neighbouring buildings? This is not political- this is the right thing to do... The place is a pig pen and now someone is calling him on his crap. Check into things folks... Take a look around if you ever go near there and then think of his neighbours. The place is a complete mess, and a major fire waiting to happen.
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Steve E on Jan 19, 2016 at 9:29 pm
The WCB should visit this business and crack the whip. The working conditions are deplorable in my opinion.
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Al Fedoriak on Jan 19, 2016 at 7:50 pm
The convenience provided by PM was never and will never be matched by Raven. Give your heads a shake.
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Phil on Jan 19, 2016 at 6:41 pm
Has anyone looked into conflict of interest between city staff and Raven... Timing seems way too convenient!
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elyse on Jan 19, 2016 at 6:24 pm
This is ridiculous....the City should vote in favour of P&M
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Marie on Jan 19, 2016 at 6:07 pm
The recycling plant is a vital part of our community!
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Dude on Jan 19, 2016 at 5:40 pm
P&M operates without the help of taxpayers unlike Raven. P&M operates without whining and having a temper tantrum by not shutting down services when the governments don't give them enough handouts unlike Raven. P&M operates a sustainable business model unlike Raven. What does Pat get for his families lifelong service to the residents of Whitehorse..... CoW go after them for an innocuous violation. The level of stupidity of the people in government never ceases to amaze.
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ProScience Greenie on Jan 19, 2016 at 5:31 pm
Smelling pretty fishy. Time for CoW to have recall legislation? Time for an Outside auditor to come in and look at the books, spending and political connection?
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YTer on Jan 19, 2016 at 5:29 pm
Move the whole works up on to Adit in Copper ridge and change the zoning there.
And Wilf, quit cherry picking, there are councillors of ALL political stripes on the present council.
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Moose Dr. on Jan 19, 2016 at 4:50 pm
Um, Mayor Curtis, Its high time you proved that you give an actual rip about recycling.
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Darren on Jan 19, 2016 at 4:48 pm
To the City of Whitehorse - Are you guys mental? We've had enough problems with recycling in the past, and now you basically want to shut these guys down? If we don't already have problems, we certainly will when the City pulls a stupid move like this. What the City staff need to do is proactively work with P&M in order to fix any issues - and if it's such a big deal to the City, then do the land swap. The City made it a problem when there was no problem. Oh...I notice it's not okay for P&M to operate, yet 100 feet away at the City's very old Municipal Service Building, it's okay for all those vehicles at the City shop to continue to pollute the air by running their vehicles all day, have the city vehicles block the lane, make noise, create dust in the lane by the city vehicles operating in the area and cause other types of problems from that city building. Double standards perhaps? Do as we say, not as we do? Too bad we couldn't vote for city managers like councellors as I'm sure a good chunk of them would be voted out with stupid ideas like this. Give your heads a shake City officials, and get back to the table with P&M to solve this properly. Not shut them down and create a bigger issue.
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There is low in politics then there is lower on Jan 19, 2016 at 4:43 pm
You have liberal mayor, some liberal Councillors, liberal management going after conservative business man and his livelyhood. This is sick and disgusting by anyone's standards.
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Bud McGee on Jan 19, 2016 at 4:16 pm
This is all political. Dan Curtis and Jocelyn Curteanu are card-carrying Liberal Party members and Pat McInroy is president of the Yukon Party.
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Doug Rutherford on Jan 19, 2016 at 4:01 pm
It seems to me that, when zoning has been changed, the onus should be on the city to make what allowances are needed for an existing business rather than the other way around.
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Becca Ross on Jan 19, 2016 at 3:36 pm
I can see the dust being an issue with all of the unpaved areas around there and the constant traffic. I wonder if paving would be a less costly fix.. it would remove the dust from the equation, and then they just have to find a second warehouse. This of course wouldn't stop it from being busy, but it would help with the health problems and gardening issues.
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Here we go again mayor and some Councillors on Jan 19, 2016 at 3:19 pm
fighting with local business trying to close them down.
Also they are in the recycling business and City wants them closed down.
That building has a multi purpose use.
People of the City of Whitehorse can you believe this.
This type of attitude shows business that they can't do business here.
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joe on Jan 19, 2016 at 3:19 pm
Am I the only one questioning this issue ? Raven charging tipping fees, self sustainability dept pushing for curb side program and fees and planning dept seeking to destroy P/M... whats up? I use P/M every week.