Yukon North Of Ordinary

‘The reality is we do not have any money’

How Mount Sima will cover outstanding debts to season pass holders and suppliers hasn't been worked out yet, says the president of the Great Northern Ski Society.

How Mount Sima will cover outstanding debts to season pass holders and suppliers hasn’t been worked out yet, says the president of the Great Northern Ski Society.

Ernie Berken said this morning those discussions are ongoing.

He spoke to the Star in the wake of Wednesday’s decision by the board of directors to keep the Whitehorse hill closed for this season.

The decision to shutter the season was made due to several serious problems have plagued Mount Sima from the very beginning of startup operations last fall, he said.

“Work has been progressing slowly throughout the season, and there is still work that needs to be done,” Berken said of preparations to open for the winter.

“And all the while we have been spending and spending, and there seems to be always roadblocks in the way, and it seems we can’t get beyond the difficult issues.”

The society president has been with the non-profit organization from the beginning 15 years ago, and was with Dan Boyd when they cut the initial snowmobile trail to the top of the hill just to have a look around. Berken fully expects to open next season.

In fact, he suggested, deciding to close now will give the society a chance to regroup, address what needs to be addressed, and put the hill in a solid state of readiness for next year.

“The board is asking for patience and understanding from the community until they can properly close the facility and then have time to deal with all the financial and technical issues there are,” says a press release issued Thursday afternoon by Berken.

“Some of the problems have been caused by nature, while many of the maintenance issues have arisen because of a lack of consistent staffing over the years, and the limited resources available to a non-profit organization that is running a big business.

“This season’s issues are a culmination of a number of years’ problems, all coming to a head this season,” states the press release.

Berken said today this season’s problems started from day-one back in the early fall of 2007, when the crew started running into problems with the snowmaking equipment. Then there was warm weather to contend with in November, on top of no natural snow to speak of.

In December, because current maintenance records for the chair lift couldn’t be found, it was suddenly discovered the main cable was due for its three-year inspection. That meant all the chairs had to be removed, then put back on, he said.

Berken said while the chairs are all back on now, there was still some maintenance required before the lift could be operational this year.

Last Friday, during the third operation for the T-bar lift, a 45-kilogram set of guide rollers fell off a tower to the ground, but nobody was hurt, Berken pointed out.

And with the onset of the cold snap, he added, the hill wouldn’t have been open this weekend in any case.

Berken said the board decided it was time to cut its losses, quit spending money and begin to regroup for 2008-09.

The ski society will be approaching both the territorial government and the city to seek financial assistance to help cover off debts Mount Sima is facing as a result of the failed startup, Berken said.

He said there is the ability to pay the six or seven full-time staff who have been laid off, though there’ll be nothing left to cover outstanding bills with local suppliers.

Also unresolved is how Mount Sima will handle the issue of season pass holders who paid anywhere from $330 as a student or senior, or $435 as an adult and up to $1,177 for a family, Berken said. He added there are also those who purchased punch cards.

“The reality is we do not have any money,” he said. “That money we spent in the early season for startup capital.

“We will plan to address the public as far as what we want to with the season pass holders and also the people out there with punch cards.”

Berken said concerns by punch card holders started to filter in after the hill didn’t open for the Christmas break.

There were those who were worried they wouldn’t get a chance to use the entire punch cardbecause they were planning to be away for the two-week spring break in March, he explained.

Berken said initial discussions indicated the hill could simply honour the punch card next season.

He said it will be more complex to deal with the season pass holders - perhaps students going away to school next year, or individuals who simply want a full reimbursement, regardless.

Berken said he did not have the specific financial details at his fingertips this morning, though he suggested the business manager could provide that information. She could not be reached by phone.

The society’s president didn’t know how much has been spent so far trying to get the hill open for this season, nor was he sure how much money had been raised through the sale of season passes and punch cards. Berken said he wasn’t sure how much debt Mount Sima is saddled with currently.

The hill’s general manager, Gary McWaters, announced last week he was resigning from his position over differences with the board, particularly with maintenance matters related to the chair lift.McWaters was hired last October.

Berken said he didn’t want to suggest the extreme focus by staff and volunteers on last year’s Canada Winter Games somehow manifested itself into this year’s problems.

Overall, he emphasized, the Games brought prosperity to the hill in the form of new snowmaking and grooming equipment, the new chalet and the T-bar lift.

If you consider the additional requirement for snowmaking later than normal into the season last year, and the problems that subsequently developed with freezing the main water lines, one could say the extra dedication to the Games was a factor, he said.

Berken said cracks in the lines caused by freezing were located and welded up during the summer, and the lines were flushed to remove and dirt and gravel which came in through the cracks.

But when the crew began making snow this fall, dirt that had somehow remained in the system began causing problems, and it just snowballed from there.

He said, for instance, there’s never been an issue with maintenance records before, but with new staff, and last year’s move into the new chalet, who knows what happened?

Mount Sima has grown into such a tremendous community asset in its 15 years of operation, Berken insisted, adding he believes it’s high time the facility had a year-round manager.

The facility exists, said Berken, largely because of solid dedication by volunteers in the community.

Jon Standing, the program director for the Yukon’s alpine and freestyle ski teams, is optimistic that closing now for the season will lead to a stronger season next winter, with more community support for the facility.

“I trust that the community will be more involved with the hill, which I think is a good thing,” Standing said in an interview Thursday.

“I think it is a positive that the community will be involved now and I think it is also positive that the maintenance will be done properly, and I think we can only grow and develop form here.

“People have realized that they have taken the hill for granted for a long time and a community hill needs a lot of community involvement.

“I would say as well that those who have built the hill have done a fantastic job, and now I am confident that some new bodies will take the hill into the future.

“There is some big challenges right now, but there are some great people who are up to the task and I feel that we hit bottom and we are on our way back up.”

Standing said he believes rebuilding will require reinvigorating the board with fresh people to assist those who’ve been carrying the load for some time.

“It had twice the infrastructure this year as it did at the beginning of last season. This sort of growth is a challenge for any enterprise.”

Sports editor Jonathan Molson contributed to this story.

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A Yukon taxpayer

Feb 1, 2008 at 2:19 pm

“The ski society will be approaching both the territorial government and the city to seek financial assistance to help cover off debts Mount Sima is facing as a result of the failed startup, Berken said.”

After 9 CDF grants, Canada Games funding, $750,000 for a new chalet, and who knows what other public financial support, Mount Sima is still not viable financially?

The board needs a dose of reality. Develop a business model that will allow Mount Sima to operate within its means and without huge public subsidies. This place is a money pit, year after year.

Let’s get the taxpayer off the hook for this misadventure.

Geof Harries

Feb 1, 2008 at 2:47 pm

I’m by no means privy to the financial situation of Mount Sima, but I imagine ever-increasing insurance costs far outweigh what they receive in funding every year.

Mount Sima also doesn’t have much going on for corporate sponsors, or at least sponsors who kick in the required huge bucks to help run the facility.

For instance, simply blowing snow into the halfpipe and then cutting it every few weeks is over $50,000 (not including fuel costs).

If they could pick up a dedicated sponsor for the halfpipe or park, Mount Sima would be further ahead.

Been there run that...

Feb 3, 2008 at 9:12 am

I believe a business model could be built that would allow Sima to operate year round (with a late summer window for annual maintenance).

Staffing has been cited as being a chronic problem at Sima. While this is true on the surface the high turnover has also had alot to do with headhunting, ringerism, and clashes with “long timers” that stifle Sima’s ambience. There has been good staffing there but they get run off....regularly....almost on schedule.

General management is hired but not allowed to perform without constant interference from key board members on a daily operational standpoint. The board should oversee and provide general direction but stay out of day to day operations unless input is requested by management.

Sima could be a profitable endeavor but needs fresh blood at the head end, a business model, and an atmosphere that would attract clientel that want to have fun both on the hill and in the lodge.

Geof Harries

Feb 4, 2008 at 6:33 am

I agree fresh blood and a new business model are desperately needed for Sima to survive and prosper. The problem is that as with all volunteer organizations, determining who stays and who goes is not a decision easily made. How do you give people the boot when they’re volunteering their time?

B. Foster (been there run that)

Feb 4, 2008 at 12:41 pm

If think that once the biz model is in place (tough job btw) then the model itself will dictate who stays and who goes. If you can stand behind the model; you stay...if not you go.

Once a vision for Sima is established and management is secured all the board need do is to oversee the progress and decide if it fits the vision. Most importantly though is that management not have it’s hands tied by a select few.

Volunteers are THE most valuable asset for Sima and they all have their own reasons for being there.

Sima basically puts the desires of young people (13 - 30)near the bottom of the list while maintaining an atmosphere that the select few find enjoyable / tolerable.

Simply put...crank up the tunes, throw in some color, cultivate the action, think up a few perks and make the young people feel like they have something to contribute and you’ll have more of them there than you know what to do with. I personally have seen a core group of young’uns there a few years ago that did big things in spite of the suspicious and ever watchfull eye of the “select”.

In one case; one of the more notoriuos of the group was the only one on hand to guide the crew in to mitigate some avalanche risk...because he knew exactly the “out of bounds” spot they were trying to get to. One of my favorite days was hearing his name on the radio guiding in the troops...lol.

They had a leader who went on to bigger and better things...and the group stopped coming to work on their own time.

Doug Rutherford

Feb 6, 2008 at 1:04 pm

While I certainly approve of the concept of having such a facility, I am not in favor of any more of taxpayers’ money going into the ski hill. Either it’s functions should be more efficiently controlled to ensure it runs in a financially viable way or its services should be curtailed so that it can run on the money available to it.

As for the inability to refund the fees paid, people should consider that the Directors of a non-profit society are financially responsible for the debts of the society. This is why most non-profits, or at least those that a run by effective managers, have board insurance. If the society does not have the ability to repay pass holders, then the Board members should be digging into their own pockets to reimburse their clients.

Mark Koepke

Feb 7, 2008 at 10:37 am

With no disrespect to those who snowploughed their hard-earned money into season’s passes and punch cards, insolvency could be the best thing that happens to Mt. Sima.

Too much public money has now been ploughed into the facility to allow its continued operation under the direction of something called the Great Northern Ski Society. Perhaps a more holistic approach to hill develoment might rise out of the ashes of the current mess.

Not only could operations potentially be expanded to make Sima more of an all-round winter recreation site (tobaganning, skating etc in addition to skiing and boarding), but as a previous commentator suggested, it could be run in the summer as well.

For example, developing the hill as a downhill mountain biking park might attract some of the same kids who flock to the hill to snowboard--but in a season when they’re not in school, and when daylight and weather conditions don’t result in regular hill closures.

Without a better understanding of the hill’s economics, it’s hard to know for sure, but I suspect the might be run more profitably as a bike park--and these revenues could then be used to subsidize the unpredictable / unprofitable ski business.

B. Foster

Feb 9, 2008 at 9:42 am

Downhill mountain biking paths could be quite popular....they are down south. Bigger population base down there of course but still.

Also...and this would be too cool....set up a small network of zip lines to get back to the bottom. Easily engineered, reasonable investment, low maintenance, maximum fun potential. People love nearly risk free adrenaline.

Fun Fun

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