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News archive for September 21, 2009

Teachers’ demands exceed budget, YTG says

Wage demands of public school educators in the territory exceed the Education department’s projected personnel budget,

By Jason Unrau on September 21, 2009 at 2:22 pm

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Patricia Daws

Wage demands of public school educators in the territory exceed the Education department’s projected personnel budget, says Patricia Daws, the Yukon’s Public Service Commissioner.

“From our perspective, we’re really trying to find a balance to maintain class contact time with something that’s sustainable and manageable,” Daws said Friday afternoon of why negotiations between government and the teachers’ union ground to a halt last week.
“We really have to be fiscally sustainable ... and take into account what is happening (in the economy).”

Daws said she was incorrectly quoted in a radio interview last week as stating the Yukon Teachers’ Association (YTA) wants a nine-per-cent wage hike over two years.

“I’m not sure where they got that information,” Daws said.

“When we met with the teachers’ (union), one of the things we did agree on is that we would not be discussing specifics in the press ... that we would have a media blackout and wouldn’t be discussing the terms.

“I’d like to honour that and not speak to the numbers.”

On Friday, YTA president Katherine Mackwood broke the agreement, according to Daws, by confirming union demands of a 4.5 per cent increase over two years.

In the union’s last collective agreement, which expired June 30, teachers received a nine-per-cent pay hike over three years.

The starting salary for a Yukon teacher fresh out of teachers’ college is $57,398.

That is nearly $20,000 more than the same person would earn in British Columbia, but Mackwood insisted the YTA’s 765 members deserve another raise.

“I will make no apologies for the wages that our highly talented and educated professionals earn,” she told the Star Friday.

For the 2009-2010 fiscal year, wages paid to teachers, education assistants, tutors, native language instructors and substitute teachers exceeded $61.5 million, a nearly four-per-cent increase from 2008-2009.

After talks broke down last week, Daws said the commission applied to the staff relations board to have the negotiations declared “at an impasse,” thereby opening the door to arbitration or conciliation.

With the former option, an independent party would consider both sides and issue a solution binding for each party

With the latter conciliation process, a board is struck and possible remedies are issued; however, job action can result if the union is not satisfied with results.

The decision on which way to go rests with the teachers’ union following the board’s determination, which Daws expects within a fortnight.

The Public Service Commissioner also downplayed the union’s assertion it was forced to negotiate more manageable classroom scenarios.

According to Mackwood, teachers are currently faced with typical class sizes of 23 to 24 students; upwards of 20 per cent of whom have learning or behavioral disabilities.

“One of the things that’s important to us is class contact time – the amount of time that there’s teachers with the students – which improves the ultimate results,” said Daws.

“One thing I can tell you is Yukon classrooms are among the smallest in Canada, with the average student to teacher ration of 10-to-one.”

Daws said the government is also “mindful” that the Yukon’s teachers are the third-highest paid in the country, behind Nunavut and the Northwest Territories.

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Anthony

Sep 21, 2009 at 3:26 pm

I can’t see the teachers gaining much public support given the global economic climate.

Also, I find it ironic that the highest paid teachers (Nunavut, NWT and Yukon) also have the worst graduation records.  We need better teachers NOT better paid teachers.

Daws will fight this tooth and nail as YEU usually gets a similar increase in their collective agreements.

Pretty lame to first have ‘media blackout’ with public dollars at stake and then turn around and break the blackout a few days later.

Doug Rutherford

Sep 21, 2009 at 3:50 pm

“We really have to be fiscally sustainable ... and take into account what is happening (in the economy).”

I’m not sure how to appropriately interpret this comment. After all, we have a new jail that was listed in the budget at $24 million and the minister admitted that it would cost $65 million a week later. We have a territory with a population of 35,000 and a $1 billion budget. It shouldn’t be difficult to deal with shifting some of this slush fund away from less important budget items to the education system. We owe our children the best possible education.

jessica

Sep 21, 2009 at 3:56 pm

i am a grade 11 student at FH collins secondary. I am one hundred percent against pay raises for teachers.  i Think the money should go towards revamping our school and educational systems in the territory. So many more kids are being home schooled because schools, at least here at F.H, are full of drugs coming in and out. in my observation as well, some teachers don’t even want to be there. Before the teachers get there fat raise, i strongly believe something should be done about the other issues first. i dont want to be uneducated and work at walmart, i want an education, and unfortunatly the yukon doesnt have it right now

Dan Davidson

Sep 21, 2009 at 9:08 pm

Mackwood can hardly be accused of breaking an agreement by responding to a question based on information that was already public via CBC, especially after the network reported that it was Daws who had given that information. Mackwood would not have had any way of knowing that this was an inaccurate attribution at that time.

bobby bitman

Sep 22, 2009 at 5:28 pm

Good post Jessica.  A rare view from inside the school, other than the teachers’ views, as to where the money should go.

francias pillman

Sep 22, 2009 at 11:15 pm

Thought of the day/Joke of the day…......$$$$ raises should be solely on graduation rates. In the case every teacher owes some money, lol.

Max

Sep 23, 2009 at 4:07 pm

Fentie and his government has lots of money to throw around for this, that and everything. Record-breaking budgets. Record-breaking expenditures. To now argue that teachers’ expectations exceed available resources is ridiculous. How incredibly lame.

My Name Here

Sep 24, 2009 at 8:46 am

I hope Jessica’s teachers read her post. Particularly her English teacher.

Disappointed Yukon Student

Sep 25, 2009 at 7:34 am

Wow, for once I agree with Francias.

Wages based on students marks.

I went to school in Whitehorse from Kindergarten to Grade 12 and saw firsthand that the MAJORITY of teachers seemed more concerned about getting their morning coffee than having successful students. Teaching takes EFFORT, creativity, resourcefulness and patience.
Thank you to the handful of teachers who actually gave a damn.

I do not feel satisfied with the education I received here, and can say without hesitation that my graduating class felt the same way.

Patty O'Brien

Sep 29, 2009 at 6:12 am

I put three children through the Yukon educational system and am proud to say that they are doing great with one in medical school and the other two looking towards higher education once they graduate (with high honours).
Yukon teachers have a huge proportion of high needs children to teach. Emotional, physical, social and mental problems abound then throw substance abuses into the mix. They have my sympathy and my hat is off to them.
Graduating kids require parents who are good role models and who provide good nutrition, a stable home environment, bedtime stories and craft supplies, volunteering and a spirit of support for their kids and the endeavours that the schools initiate.
Many teachers provide coaching, mentoring, field trips, tutoring, craft supplies out of their own pocket and a host of other contributions and encouragement that is well beyond their contract.
If only the government could spend money towards getting better parents out there.

Jimmy

Sep 29, 2009 at 4:46 pm

Patty, I find your ‘holier than thou’ tone condescending.  There is no arguing Yukon teachers have a tough job.  So do Yukon truck drivers, Yukon miners, Yukon plumbers etc

Yukon teachers are well paid, and while your children have seemingly done well they are the ones on the edge of the bell curve.  Yukon students have been underperformed for decades.  See the Auditor General report if you don’t believe me.  I think a 2% increment is more than adequate given the global economy and abysmal graduation rate.

Robert Austin

Sep 30, 2009 at 7:10 am

Three comments lass:

1) Kids are baby goats,

2) You are important:always   capitalize the letter “i” when referring to yourself;

3)  Proofread.

Yukon Teacher

Sep 30, 2009 at 4:19 pm

I would just like to agree to one of the above comments about graduation rates and provincial exam scores. I find it ironic that a group of teachers who’s poor performance is public knowledge in the Yukon year over year have a misguided belief that it is harder to teach in the yukon then anywhere else. The Yukon has more social programs and groups to help “troubled” kids then any of 4 provinces i have lived and taught in. I feel guilty being a part of this group as i am thankful to make the wage that I earn and also for the fact that i am grateful to be making an income in these tough economic times.

I feel the best thing to do for the kids and for the teachers is to get these test scores and graduation rates up and THEN come back to the table with performance indicators that back up our demands.

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