Whitehorse Daily Star

Local scam victim wants to warn others

A Whitehorse woman has been scammed $3,500 after participating in what she thought was a mystery-shopper job.

By Rhiannon Russell on March 24, 2015

A Whitehorse woman has been scammed $3,500 after participating in what she thought was a mystery-shopper job.

The woman, who asked not to have her name published, is telling her story to make other people aware of these frauds.

“Be careful,” she told the Star in a recent interview.

“It’s not as easy as it seems to make extra money,” she said of advertisements for making hundreds of dollars a week in exchange for rating service at local shops or purchasing specific goods.

Mystery shopping gigs are typically offered by market research companies, collecting data on service quality or availability of certain products in stores.

The woman received a $3,500 cheque in the mail last month from something called the Crystal Survey Group.

An accompanying letter asked her to visit a local bank, rate the service she received and keep $400 for doing so. She was instructed to send the rest of the money to an an Ontario bank account.

So she did.

She’d heard of mystery shopping previously, and didn’t think anything seemed out of the ordinary.

The woman also received texts from the phony survey group, and spoke to a man on the phone who wanted to ensure she received the cheque.

But the cheque bounced, and the bank sent $3,100 of her own money in its place.

The woman found out what had happened only after she unsuccessfully tried to mail a package to her daughters.

She thought something was wrong with her card, so she went to her bank, the Bank of Montreal (BMO).

A clerk there told her her account was overdrawn – “by a lot,” she said.

“I was just totally devastated; like, what the hell happened?”

The bank manager was apologetic, she said, but told her there was nothing they could do. She had to take money out of her savings and investments to cover the loss.

The bank waived service fees she was charged for the bounced cheque.

The woman now questions why the bank didn’t hold the cheque for a few days to ensure it was valid.

But Shirley Milligan, assistant branch manager at BMO, said if someone is a good client, he or she would have access to the funds right away.

Milligan said she’s seen this scam several times over the years.

People receive a cheque in the mail for a large amount of money – either more than what they’re selling an item for, or as payment for future services, like mystery shopping – then are told to deposit the money, keep a certain amount, and send the rest back.

“These are scams,” Milligan said. “People never give you more money than your item is worth. That’s the first red flag.

“But I know people are desperate. They want or need the money and they think that people are going to give it to them. They’re genuine, and they just can’t believe that someone would do them wrong. We have so many trusting people, and they get taken advantage of.”

If clients are suspicious of a cheque they receive in the mail, Milligan recommends they bring it in to a bank teller. The woman didn’t do that in this case.

“We can verify them, so we fax them to the bank that they’re drawn on, or we call the bank, and they can tell us within minutes if they’re fraudulent,” Milligan said.

The woman reported the incident to the RCMP, but they told her there was nothing they could do to recover her money.

She tried calling the phone number she was contacted at by the so-called survey group, but the voice mailbox was full.

Whitehorse RCMP Cpl. Natasha Dunmall said people should do some “secondary digging” when they receive communication that could potentially be a scam. She suggests Googling the company name on a cheque to see if others have identified it as fraud.

A Google search of “crystal survey group” turns up links for anti-scam websites.

“It really just goes back to that old adage: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is,” Dunmall said.

“You need to protect yourself in today’s era of technology. We just have to be careful.”

Comments (13)

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nope on Mar 26, 2015 at 8:32 pm

I said the bank manager in my first post, not all the employees. It seems someone edited that part. Good idea as it make me look like I was bad mouthing everyone there.

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not again on Mar 26, 2015 at 1:32 pm

Ken --

Having worked at a bank before and dealing with a few of these, the bank has no obligation. That's why restrictions are set on bank cards, etc. If she put it in the bank machine and is a good customer, there isn't much for holds. If she was a new customer, the cheque would have been held.

If she had come in and presented the cheque, it would all depend on the client. If they were a high profile, good customer, why would they question it? Many cheques come from many places all the time that ARE legit. If you spent time checking every single cheque that came in, customers would be even more irate and ruder than they already are. I'd say this happens probably 1 in every 10,000 cheques or more.

Plus, having worked at a bank, a $3500 cheque isn't that much money. Believe me.

In the end, she could get charged with fraud herself for accepting a cheque from an illegitimate vendor and depositing it. Again, if it's too good to be true, it is. And you should NEVER have to give back money that they're paying you. That should be your first clue that something is not right. Why would they front you money and have you being paid? Also, there are clues on the cheques if you know the banking system--where were they drawn? What bank is it? Does the coding sequence match up? Does the bank number match? Is it drawn in the same funds as the country that it's coming from (ie US funds drawn on a Canadian bank)? Many things.

It's unfortunate it happens. But it happens because people are gullible. I feel bad for her, but unfortunately by accepting the cheque and depositing it, it's her responsibility and no one else's.

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KEN JEFFRIES on Mar 26, 2015 at 1:07 pm

I am wondering about the banks legal position on this. They chose to cash the cheque and not hold it. Just because you are a "good" customer to me doesn't waive the responsibility of the bank to ensure a cheque is valid. I guess it might boil down to the contract you have with your bank when you opened your account. Is there a lawyer out there who can answer this? I have a friend that this happened to and was just wondering. Thanks

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Pro RCMP on Mar 25, 2015 at 4:09 pm

@Michelle. It is frustrating, but it's just not up to the police to fix everything. They have bigger fish to fry (and sometimes that does involve the internet). People need to be aware and take responsibility when they are online. This goes for their driving habits as well...the police do what they can and can't be everywhere, nor can they be responsible for the way people choose to drive.

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rocket resident on Mar 25, 2015 at 3:55 pm

This has been a scam for so many years it was just that you were supposed to use Western Union to send money to rate the service but Western Union managed to stop the scam from using them. One would figure the banks would be even stronger about it.

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Tom Stevens on Mar 25, 2015 at 10:40 am

Really... this scam is so old.... who gets free money ever.... would like to feel bad for the victim, but take some responsibility for your greed..

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Michelle on Mar 24, 2015 at 10:18 pm

I get emails and texts from these scammers too, it's really frustrating that the police can't or won't do anything about it ! I also got a yellow post card in the mail saying I won something, but this is a scam too. Need to be really careful, Google does help.

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Oh Please! on Mar 24, 2015 at 6:25 pm

If anybody ever sends me money, scam or otherwise, they will get it back never, ever. it sucks to be them. That covers any scammers.

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Anonymous on Mar 24, 2015 at 6:25 pm

Nope: No one is forcing you to have a bank account. You can take your cheques to Cash plan who will charge you a lot of money to cash your cheque. Do all the banks a favor and do this.

As for this article it is plain greed so therefore I do not feel sorry for you.

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June Jackson on Mar 24, 2015 at 5:18 pm

There are warnings all over the internet, email warnings, the RCMP post warnings, and there is still people hoping that they can scoop something for nothing. And there are people that can get money without having to work for it..they are all in the Senate and Parliament..

I also looked at secret shoppers..it sounded like a cool way to make some money and fun at the same time...I didn't know it was a scam.. but.. "nope" hit it right on the head..if it seems too good to be true..it is.

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BMO not the only bank that's increasing on Mar 24, 2015 at 5:10 pm

@nope - I too don't like banks in general (service charges, fees etc) ... but your comment about BMO's employees isn't called for. The staff there, at least in my experience, has always been pleasant and efficient. As for the woman who was the victim of the scam - my sympathies, and thanks for warning people

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nope on Mar 24, 2015 at 4:47 pm

Lucky you got anything back. Dealing with BMO is like pulling teeth. "What can I do about it? " Like a broken record. Now I see they are hiring TFWs. Insert circus music here. Oh yeah, and their fees are going up again. I mean why not, you cut services year after year. Make me pay to access my own money. Tell me I can only take out $500 at the ATM. Its actually all banks Not just BMO. One big ponzi scam. You don't do anything to deserve the money you charge. I actually worked for mine, not stole it. Don't worry, sooner than later your jobs will be done by robots. How about them apples?

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Not again on Mar 24, 2015 at 4:28 pm

If it seems too good to be true, it is. Like the people who win the lottery they never entered. At least it was only $3100--others have lost WAY more.

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